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Two days before condo collapse, a pool contractor photographed this damage in garage
Miami Herald ^ | JUNE 28, 2021 | Y SARAH BLASKEY AND AARON LEIBOWITZ

Posted on 06/28/2021 6:58:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The contractor visited the condo building last week to put together a bid for a cosmetic restoration of the pool as well as to price out new pool equipment — a small piece of the multimillion-dollar restoration project that just was getting underway at the 40-year-old building.

In the pool equipment room, located on the south side of the underground garage, the contractor saw another problem — exposed and corroding rebar in the concrete slab overhead. He snapped some pictures and sent them to his supervisor along with a note expressing concern that the job might be a bit more complicated than expected. He worried they would have to remove pool pipes to allow concrete restoration experts access to repair the slabs.

The building caved in two days later, before they had time to complete their bid.


A commercial pool contractor indicated where he saw serious corrosion in the Champlain Towers South pool equipment room in a photo he took two days before the building collapsed. COURTESY

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The location of the deep pool of standing water and cracked concrete and corroded rebar in the garage of Champlain Towers South condo, as pointed out by a pool contractor who toured the property two days before the collapse. EDUARDO ALVAREZ

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: collapse; condo; condocollapse; florida; surfside
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101 posted on 06/29/2021 8:50:51 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: BenLurkin

Why


102 posted on 06/29/2021 12:21:56 PM PDT by pangaea6
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To: snuffy smiff

I hear ya. (Helen is a weekend go-to for us, BTW.). I’m originally from Mountain Maryland, and those Appalachian black bears are everywhere. One of our neighbors told my mom a few years back that she opened her porch door to drop a bag of trash in her can, and a pooh bear was in it up to it’s hips, foraging. They’re showing up on playgrounds, in swimming pools, everywhere. Our local paper publishes a weekly bear report now. They were scarce for decades, but came back to reclaim their natural territory. We had a 400 pounder taken out by a truck last year.


103 posted on 06/29/2021 1:59:06 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Remember, all the world’s a barstool.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you for that concise explanation.


104 posted on 06/29/2021 2:12:37 PM PDT by LibertyWoman (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: rxsid

Nice work on the garage pic.


105 posted on 06/29/2021 2:24:12 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: LibertyWoman

You’re very welcome!


106 posted on 06/29/2021 2:36:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: BenLurkin

Looking carefully at the surveillance video of the collapse, it should be noted that the collapse happened in three phases.

First, half the center second collapsed. This is the south facing part of the section, which was directly above parking space 78!

Second and in immediate succession, the north facing part of the center section was pulled down by the first collapse.

Last, the east section, which remained standing for mere seconds fell into the center section pile.

The video seems to correlate to the parking space location, the puddle and the progession of events.

I suspect were gong to hear much more about what was degraded and structurally compromised near parking space 78. My guess is the support pillars at that area are severely damaged and that the steel within was corroded beyond belief


107 posted on 06/29/2021 2:42:16 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: rxsid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/interactive/2021/photos-building-collapse-miami-dade/


108 posted on 06/29/2021 4:29:28 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: rxsid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/photography/interactive/2021/photos-building-collapse-miami-dade/


109 posted on 06/29/2021 4:48:14 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: chuck allen

My bad, photos 58 and 66. Can’t link for some reason.


110 posted on 06/29/2021 4:55:06 PM PDT by chuck allen
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To: Viking2002

We’re just a few miles north of Helen. Was born in Atlanta and we lived out near Six Flags but I kinda halfway grew up here-my mother was born on a farm north of Young Harris and we were up here like every other weekend and I spent most of every summer on the farm. Most all the towns around here were just barely wide spots in the road back in the 60’s and 70’s but not any more!

I guess Miami was once much the same but now? Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frc_mzXzaoc&list=TLPQMjgwNjIwMjFCMdx3w4cqJQ&index=13

It’s a bit long but a fascinating view from the rear tug boat guiding a ship thru downtown Miami at night.

I just hope all that new construction is better built than that 45 year old condo...


111 posted on 06/29/2021 8:46:11 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Vsetko Umiera! Build the Wall and build it tall, then build a gallows and hang them ALL!)
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To: snuffy smiff
We were just there Thanksgiving weekend last year, and rented the WORST cabin I've ever stayed in. Yeah, I'm going here: Alpine Mountain Cabins on 75A. The furniture smelled, the bed was a single, not a queen, the hot tub wasn't, the pillows were so flat I had to use a bundle of clothes for my head, and the heater wouldn't adjust - we had to open the windows so it wasn't 90 degrees inside. Our prior cabin was at Cabin On The Creek near Yonah. The road to the cabin was little more than a one lane fire trail, but it was nice inside. Plus, they had catch and release trout fishing right off the back deck. Sweet. My wife was born in Atlanta. Remember that scene in Smokey and The Bandit, when the Bandit went to see Cletus at home to enlist him in the beer run? That house used to be owned by a daycare worker, and that's where my wife spent her days as a tot when her mother went to work at Grady Hospital.
112 posted on 06/29/2021 9:44:49 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Remember, all the world’s a barstool.)
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To: Viking2002
Yep, Helen was nice-like 50 years ago when it first got transformed into an Alpine village. Not much has changed since then and we now avoid it like the plague. I refuse to even drive thru the town unless absolutely necessary.
Speaking of Smokey And The Bandit-I once had the "pleasure" of riding that deathtrap of a rollercoaster at the old fairgrounds a few months before it was torn down for the end of the movie. Scariest ride I've ever been on! The damn thing swayed like 5 feet as it went around the curves and I swear my growth was forever stunted afterwards! Nothing since has terrified me even close to that one ride!
113 posted on 06/29/2021 10:06:43 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (Vsetko Umiera! Build the Wall and build it tall, then build a gallows and hang them ALL!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I, too, am wondering if the root cause is water damage, where else could it have come from??

Well, 100 yards away is a geographic feature called the Atlantic Ocean. The foundation is sitting in a brackish groundwater environment. The concrete garage floor at the base of the building was spalling like crazy. If the rebar was not adequately protected galvanically or by very robust coatings, this kind of result should not be much of a surprise.

114 posted on 06/29/2021 10:51:44 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Now IF an owner had renters in a unit THEN they will be responsible!!!

No, the owners of a rented unit are responsible for paying monthly and special assessments and voting their share in the HOA. The renters don't have any responsibility for the actions or non-action of the HOA.

115 posted on 06/29/2021 11:01:14 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: SFConservative

I meant the owner would be responsible I worded that wrong!! Sorry!!


116 posted on 06/29/2021 11:04:12 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: snuffy smiff

Oh, man, since we got caught in that traffic coming into town during Oktoberfest, we learned early that you avoid it like herpes during the fall/winter months. It’s beautiful, but don’t risk your life unless it’s spring. I’m American but born of German heritage, a lot of off-the-boat German Lutherans in my bloodline only going back a couple of generations, raised hearing German spoken and eating a lot of German food, but it’s a circus up there. I’ve always wanted to visit the Old Country, but not in it’s current incarnation. My dad even spent most of his off duty hours staying at our Uncle Karl’s farm when he was stationed there in the 50’s. Our family surname was ubiquitous in the area back then.


117 posted on 06/29/2021 11:41:27 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Remember, all the world’s a barstool.)
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To: ncalburt; catnipman; Pelham

Ok ...former Miami and Coral Gables and South Miami ...old cutler road resident here....my girls born there in the Grove at mercy in 1988 and 1989

It was Metro Dade county govt and sheriff Dept

And many cities within Dade county ..many who have thier own govt and police and some who don’t

Most have complimentary relationship with Metro sheriff but often the local jurisdiction holds sway

County incarceration is Dade county ....Dade jail by Jackson Memorial Hospital , Dade Stockade and TGK by airport , West Dade on Krome ave and north Dade

Some local communities are informal like Coconut Grove or Redlands or Kendall

Some are formal like Miami, Miami Gardens, Hialeah, and Miami Beach ....34 in fact...not all have individual police forces but most do.....Surfside does

The parts of Miami not under local govt are governed by metro Dade....that is a majority of Dade county land mass

It is no longer called Dade county but technically Miami Dade ....to exploit the international name

I disagree the county govt was born of desperate poverty ....

Surely not the case now....Miami Dade is a rich vibrant city ....a million more folks than when I lived there..it is the capital of Latin America ...no question....anyone with money in Latin America or the Caribbean has an escape residence in Myamuh

I love it ....


118 posted on 06/30/2021 12:18:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (Girls...in the end ....it’s about them )
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