COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (27 Apr, as of 06:00 AM ET)

CDC ^ | 27 Apr 2021 | CDC

[BeauBo]

(President Trump's Operation Warp Speed Update)

(A big drop (half speed) in the number of shots given - No J&J yet - Cases and Hospitalizations now heading distinctly downward at the National level)

Total Vaccine Doses Delivered: 297,543,635 (17,642,250 J&J)

Administered: 232,407,669 (8,097,650 J&J)

People Vaccinated, At Least One Dose: 141,751,857

Fully Vaccinated: 96,747,454

[2aProtectsTheRest]

False quote, intended to mislead people. My quote is directly from the people who operate VAERS. If you’re going to quote their data, it’s irresponsible to do so out of the context they - themselves - provide.

If you would prefer to be dishonest in dealing with people, that’s on you. Me? I provide facts, with context, so people can better understand observable reality.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

"Some Freepers, unlike you, actually do care about posting lies here."

100%! Facts; not fearmongering. Not paranoia. Facts.

[mrsmith]

Again, I just doj’t see how this can be used to determine vaccine efficacy.

[bagster]

Because pony express, building cars, and making armor is the same as injecting a mystery substance into a human body.

I gotta say, Chase-troll, you peoples' analogies are hilarious.

[bagster]

False quote, intended to mislead people.

*shakes my head full of brains*

How can it be a false quote if I'm quoting myself?

Both quotes are equally true. In fact, your quote is intended to mislead and give people the impression that the negative reactions to your deadly vax have nothing to do with the vax.

Its okay, you can admit it. Go on.

[2aProtectsTheRest]

I’m quoting the people who actually operate the system and understand how the data in it is supposed to be used. I’m quoting from the “Guide to Interpreting VAERS Data” at https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html.

You’re just saying things, but then putting it in quotes as though you got it from an authoritative source. You didn’t. You just conjured it up and presented it as though it should carry more weight than it should. That’s dishonest.

Bearing false witness is a sin.

[bagster]

I provide facts, with context, so people can better understand observable reality.

You are a spin-meister for the derp state government vax drones. You only post 'facts' that conform with your false narrative, while completely ignoring or 'debunking' (please note that 'debunking' is in quotation marks) facts what destroy your narrative.

Don't feel bad, lots of people do that.

From now on...

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Thank you, Jane!

Good catch.

[bagster]

If you are in fear of a vaccine, may I suggest you don’t take the vaccine. Stop living in fear of a vaccine you’re not going to take,

If you are in fear of the corona, may I suggest you go ahead and takt the vax. Stop trying to instill fear of the rona to make people take the 'vax'.

[Jane Long]

Strange deal :-)

[bagster]

Haha.

You’re just saying things, but then putting it in quotes as though you got it from an authoritative source. You didn’t. You just conjured it up and presented it as though it should carry more weight than it should. That’s dishonest.

Goot lawd amighty. I don't need an 'authoritative source to say something a loaf of bread could understand.

You got to be the worst arguer on the internet.

Saying that the reported events to VAERS DON'T prove that the vax DID NOT have something to do with the event is pretty much third grade stuff. Don't need even graduate high school to figure that one out.

That’s dishonest.

You lie again. Its completely honest. Don't be mad that my brain works better than yours.

Bearing false witness is a sin.

Then you're going straight to hell. Repent, sinner!

Lemme try to make it easy for you.

*gets out crayons*

YOU said, VAERS reports don't PROVE the vax caused the negative event. You even had to quote VAERS to make that statement. A child could know that.

I said, VAERS reports don't DISPROVE the vax cause the event. A retarded child could know that.

If you are to be believed, each and every one of those 'negative events' would have happened on the exact same day as if the person hadn't taken the vax. It stretches credulity, goodman. Your argument is wind.

What is so hard for you to admit that VAERS reports neither prove or disprove the vax is responsible? VAERS is intended to look for trends and trigger further investigation and action.

And right now, the 'trend' is worse in a matter of months than previously seen in other vaccines in decades.

Talk about bearing false witness. Sheesh.

p.s. Sure are a lot of coincidences with the vax, amirite?

[13foxtrot]

Can you point me to a 2 year developed and approved vaccine?

Shingrix, the newest shingles vax took well over 10 ten years to develop and obtain FDA approval (2017). Shingrix is a sub-unit vax using relatively new tech. It replaced/superceded a whole virus shingles vax.

[BeauBo]

An ARR of 0.4% to 0.7% requires a very small chance of contracting the disease - yet a third or a half of the population has.

If the vaccine would prevent 95% of those cases, then ARR would be closer to a third or a half.

That ARR number from the trials was from a short snapshot timeframe, when cases numbers were lower than this Winter’s wave. Resistance to the disease persists longer than the trial period, and continues to reduce risk.

If the virus eventually works its way through the whole unvaccinated population, ARR should approach RRR.

[ransomnote]

I dunno, bagster.

Doesn't it seem like there would be no visual pattern to the number of days following vaccination before a stroke was reported to have occurred, if all strokes reported were random events expected to happen anyway? 

From CDC VAERS Data Set Posted here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3920760/posts?page=2647#2647

[BeauBo]

Yes, hospitalization numbers in the USA show a huge vaccine effect, by age group.

A lot of elderly people’s lives have already been saved by vaccination.

[BeauBo]

It may be that people are just less likely to report a stroke in VAERS, as time goes on. Whatever happens on vaccination day, will likely be suspected to be from the vaccine, but that subjective perception of association naturally drops over time.

It is a tiny percentage to study - a few hundred cases out of over 200 million shots. Reporting bias could account for it.

[BeauBo]

“Vaccines along for the ride of an already declining trend.”

Big vaccine effects are seen between age groups in the USA, and between countries with high vs. low rates of vaccination (less so for those who rely on the Sinovac, like the UAE).

[ransomnote]

To: bagster

Posted for reference for the following comments in this post:

From CDC VAERS Data Set Posted here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3920760/posts?page=2647#2647

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BeauBo to ransomnote

It may be that people are just less likely to report a stroke in VAERS, as time goes on. Whatever happens on vaccination day, will likely be suspected to be from the vaccine, but that subjective perception of association naturally drops over time.

It is a tiny percentage to study - a few hundred cases out of over 200 million shots. Reporting bias could account for it.

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To: bagster

Uh oh, bagster. BeauBo is routinely wrong, but if he's right this  time it means there are FAR MORE unreported strokes than reported to VAERS depsite assurances all reports are made. 

I fear this may be confirmation of the CNA's report that the elderly were 'dropping like flies' in the nursing homes and their deaths were being dismissed as resulting from an undocumented 'superspreader event.'

It just doesn't sound like people are really watching, investigating like they claim they do.

Posted for reference for the following comments in this post:

From CDC VAERS Data Set Posted here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3920760/posts?page=2647#2647

[bagster]

yet a third or a half of the population has (contracted the disease).

Where's you come up with those wildly different numbers?

[bagster]

Doesn't it seem like there would be no visual pattern to the number of days following vaccination before a stroke was reported to have occurred, if all strokes reported were random events expected to happen anyway?

And from their very own VAERS.

Its getting very hard for the vax-bots to claim 'no adverse effects' from the vax, as the info comes pouring in.