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1 posted on 04/25/2021 11:04:06 AM PDT by ArizonaStateLine
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Sorry dude, no dice...leave the Electoral College the way the Founding Fathers designed it.


2 posted on 04/25/2021 11:06:04 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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DC shall not be a state! This is the hill I am prepared to die on, and the GOP better be also.
3 posted on 04/25/2021 11:07:37 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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The reasoning for DC to be a state, according to the Democrats, is they have no Senate representation. However, San Diego, that votes Republican in every election, is in a state that has two Democrat senators. To technically, San Diego has no senate representation. Should San Diego be it’s own state, using their logic?


4 posted on 04/25/2021 11:08:18 AM PDT by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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Nancy will be back at home in Hell before DC becomes a State


5 posted on 04/25/2021 11:08:48 AM PDT by butlerweave
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If conservative state legislatures do it then you can bet that those are Republican leaning states and we would end up losing votes. Now it is true that if New York or California would do that than the Dems would lose votes. So you can bet that they would never do it for that reason. And for that reason Conservative legislatures should not do it in red states.
7 posted on 04/25/2021 11:11:57 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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If D.C. gets in as the 51st state, red states should secede. Historically, states tend to come in pairs for balance. Last time was Alaska and Hawaii in 1959. You could go all the way back to 1820, when Maine and Missouri became states.


8 posted on 04/25/2021 11:14:46 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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So the full article and another link shows that the result of the 2016 election would have been identical. How about 2020? There’s no reason to support a change in the rules if the outcome does not change as a result.


9 posted on 04/25/2021 11:18:31 AM PDT by Bernard (“When once the guardian angel has taken flight, everything is lost”. – William H. Seward, 1/12/1861)
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The writer of this article must be bored.

The second this bill is signed into law it'll get shot down in the courts.

D.C. cannot become a state unless a Constitutional Amendment is passed. And please don't give me this garbage about "Since when did Dems care about the Constitution?" - not gonna happen folks. Stop subscribing to fear porn.

10 posted on 04/25/2021 11:18:40 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Free Republic: The Internet's 1st social media platform. Since 1996.)
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Just vote by county. Win a county, get 1 point. Most points in state wins electoral vote of that state.


11 posted on 04/25/2021 11:22:15 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Keep the Faith. Everything happens for a reason.)
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Or we can make DC it’s own independent country, sort of like Lesotho.

In a few months, the Morlock inhabitants would all die of starvation but at least they would have representation in the UN.

Good riddance. /spit.


12 posted on 04/25/2021 11:22:37 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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it isn’t about representation, and it isn’t about enfranchisement.

DC can’t be a state because then that state would exert extortive influence over the federal government. it’s actually pretty simple.


14 posted on 04/25/2021 11:23:11 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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If only Red states do this they are committing suicide. I favor this plan, but it must be all states.


19 posted on 04/25/2021 11:25:16 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal.)
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DC will have six electoral votes, 3 conferred by statehood, 3 in the residual Federal District, granted to Congress by Amendment XXIII and not removeable by statehood legislation.


20 posted on 04/25/2021 11:27:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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Not sure what difference it makes. Most Americans don’t have representation as things currently stand in the Senate but the house is supposed to be their representation anyways. The real problem is the states generally do not have representation in Washington either. Divided government is a myth and the Senate is probably, in all honesty controlled by a very small handful of people.


25 posted on 04/25/2021 11:48:45 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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30 posted on 04/25/2021 12:41:04 PM PDT by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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I can’t think of a good reason for winner take all. The most fair way to do it is by congressional district, with the overall state winner getting to two additional electoral votes that come from having 2 senate seats. Studies have shown that the overall result would have been about the same. In 2020 Trump would have gotten 7 of California’s 55 votes. Instead, the will of just over 6 million people who voted for him here counts for exactly nothing.


34 posted on 04/25/2021 1:26:34 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (20 years on Free Republic, 12/10/20! More than 3700 replies and still not shutting up!)
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Only conservative states will break up their vote creating a permanent left wing majority.


37 posted on 04/25/2021 2:01:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce ( )
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Keep the EC model. It keeps value in the votes from the middle of the country.
I would make a change, though, in the manner of counting.

There are 435 Representatives, each from a particular House District.
There are 100 Senators, two from each state.
There is EV accorded the State for each Senator and each Representative.
There are three EV accorded to DC.
That is the total 538; half of which is 269, thus making the magic number 270...minimum for an EC Majority.

SO...apportion the EV representing the HOUSE DISTRICT for POPULAR vote winner in that DISTRICT.
Apportion the EV representing the SENATE SEATS for the POPULAR vote winner in the STATE.
And, DC can apportion on the POPULAR vote winner in DC.

That keeps value in EVERY VOTE cast, and addresses the potential for a few major population centers to control the election outcome. Swing States mean nothing. House Districts become the ‘muscle’, without the population centers of the State controlling.


38 posted on 04/25/2021 2:23:03 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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The problem is that the states that are most likely to do this are red states.

Where we need to do it is in swing states where Republicans control the Legislature: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, etc.


41 posted on 04/25/2021 3:47:03 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters. )
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If DC residents want representation, the District land should be returned to Maryland and Virginia


42 posted on 04/25/2021 4:52:13 PM PDT by myerson
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