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Hello, I’m new here. Absolutely love this group, been following for a couple months, my daily hopium. I have a question about the vaccines. My elderly parents get their 2nd shot tomorrow (I was against it but their choice). My daughters have all gotten it. So I’m very worried not only for my parents but the future health of the girls and their chances of having healthy children. I want to believe Trump will have the resources to address and reverse these health dangers in those who got it. Or am I hopelessly naive? Thank you and thank you for this group!


1,611 posted on 03/31/2021 8:45:06 AM PDT by Ckcpossum
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To: Ckcpossum
Welcome aboard, possum.

No answer to your question from me, sadly.


1,615 posted on 03/31/2021 9:03:36 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Ckcpossum; All
Hello, I’m new here. Absolutely love this group, been following for a couple months, my daily hopium. I have a question about the vaccines. My elderly parents get their 2nd shot tomorrow (I was against it but their choice). My daughters have all gotten it. So I’m very worried not only for my parents but the future health of the girls and their chances of having healthy children. I want to believe Trump will have the resources to address and reverse these health dangers in those who got it. Or am I hopelessly naive? Thank you and thank you for this group!
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Welcome to the thread. We're glad you joined us!

I don't have any information about the best protections available for those who choose to have, or their loved ones choose to have, the vaccine and have been wondering about it myself.

I would think the white hats would be divising a protocol to use in the event the concerns about the vaccines are borne out by experience, but I don't know what strategies are medically feasible.

For example, Dr. Zelenko has a prophylactic protocol intended as an alternative for those who don't want the vaccine. But couldn't it help people who have had the vaccine protect themselves?

Basically I'm wondering if encouraging, or preparing on the behalf of, those we love who may at some point encounter some complications as a result of the vaccine, to follow the prophylactic advise given those who don't want the vaccine.

I keep seeing articles that stress that Vitamin D3 is an important consideration because it is one of two sites the Covid virus binds to (I think the other is ACE). I've read 70% of the population is D3 deficient so perhaps many of us could obtain immediate benefits by increasing intake of sunshine or supplements.

So maybe Quercetin, Zinc etc. and/or getting an online prescripton for Ivermectin or HCQ and setting it aside for a rainy day would be good until we can find out what treatments the white hats will be providing. HIV has some of the immune depleting strategies of Covid - surely White Hat medical staff would likely borrow the most effective treatments from  HIV breakthrough discoveries.  

I believe there are strategies, and there's always hope because there's always God. In my life I've talked with people who have relayed stories of cricial injury and illness in which their stories begin, "Well, the doctors thought I would die, but....."

I will attach some links that below for those who want to start building their home based strategy to reduce chances/severity of complications following the Covid vaccine to implement in the event its needed later down the line.

 1. Perhaps the task of building a Covid Vaccine health strategy might begin by printing a copy of the following Pub Med document which provides evidence to your physician that you or your family/loved ones who have received the vaccine may be sensitized to future risk. This document could be used to ask the doctor to review/advise regarding prophylactic supplements and strategies.
 
Doctors not aware of this document, as information like this is curiously buried in plain sight, would likely appreciate having it to better serve all patients.

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID‐19 vaccines worsening clinical disease

2. I do wonder if a person could obtain a medical appointment used to help develop a post-vaccination health strategy on behalf of an otherwise uninterested family member.

There is evidence that some who had the vaccine may, as a side-effect of the vaccine, actually begin producing and shedding the Covid-19 virus without experiencing symptoms themselves. How often this occurs and to what extent is unknown. Here's a document you may want to print for your physician  which describes the research behind this concern.

Our doctors are limited in how they may respond these days, but at the very least if they are unaware of this information, they could use it to better serve all their patients.

COVID-19 News: Harvard And MIT Study Alarmingly Shows That SARS-CoV-2 RNA Integrates Into Human Genome With Varying Implications

 

3. This thread also contains links to strategy building content  (e.g., PDF's of the Zelenko protocols and access points to drugs/prescriptions). The medical treatment/supplement information is near the top of the thread post and I noted one or more comments by FReepers about additional supplments they've researched.

Suppressed Information About the Covid-19 Vaccine' | Vol 01 Date: 03/20/2021

 
4. The following is an excellent guide prepared by physicians; I think we should all print out and share it far and wide.

A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment

Thank you for asking the question as it has helped get me started on pulling together ideas about this. I wish I had information for you about what physicians will be working on to address this potential need. I know that white hats are aware of these issues and will give it the priority attention it deserves. I just don't what that could involve.
 
So there's information out there. There is medical concern out there. There are medications and supplements out there. There are fellow patriots out there. And then God is everywhere.

Prayers up!

1,629 posted on 03/31/2021 10:02:41 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Ckcpossum
Pardon me, but I already updated my post to you by adding an additional two points. I'll try to pull together ideas (e.g., steal them from other FReeQs and FReepers) and update this list as needed. :)
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Welcome to the thread. We're glad you joined us!

I don't have any information about the best protections available for those who choose to have, or their loved ones choose to have, the vaccine and have been wondering about it myself.

I would think the white hats would be divising a protocol to use in the event the concerns about the vaccines are borne out by experience, but I don't know what strategies are medically feasible.

For example, Dr. Zelenko has a prophylactic protocol intended as an alternative for those who don't want the vaccine. But couldn't it help people who have had the vaccine protect themselves?

Basically I'm wondering if encouraging, or preparing on the behalf of, those we love who may at some point encounter some complications as a result of the vaccine, to follow the prophylactic advise given those who don't want the vaccine.

I keep seeing articles that stress that Vitamin D3 is an important consideration because it is one of two sites the Covid virus binds to (I think the other is ACE). I've read 70% of the population is D3 deficient so perhaps many of us could obtain immediate benefits by increasing intake of sunshine or supplements.

So maybe Quercetin, Zinc etc. and/or getting an online prescripton for Ivermectin or HCQ and setting it aside for a rainy day would be good until we can find out what treatments the white hats will be providing. HIV has some of the immune depleting strategies of Covid - surely White Hat medical staff would likely borrow the most effective treatments from  HIV breakthrough discoveries.  

I believe there are strategies, and there's always hope because there's always God. In my life I've talked with people who have relayed stories of cricial injury and illness in which their stories begin, "Well, the doctors thought I would die, but....."

I will attach some links that below for those who want to start building their home based strategy to reduce chances/severity of complications following the Covid vaccine to implement in the event its needed later down the line.

 1. Perhaps the task of building a Covid Vaccine health strategy might begin by printing a copy of the following Pub Med document which provides evidence to your physician that you or your family/loved ones who have received the vaccine may be sensitized to future risk. This document could be used to ask the doctor to review/advise regarding prophylactic supplements and strategies.
 
Doctors not aware of this document, as information like this is curiously buried in plain sight, would likely appreciate having it to better serve all patients.

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID‐19 vaccines worsening clinical disease

2. I do wonder if a person could obtain a medical appointment used to help develop a post-vaccination health strategy on behalf of an otherwise uninterested family member.

There is evidence that some who had the vaccine may, as a side-effect of the vaccine, actually begin producing and shedding the Covid-19 virus without experiencing symptoms themselves. How often this occurs and to what extent is unknown. Here's a document you may want to print for your physician  which describes the research behind this concern.

Our doctors are limited in how they may respond these days, but at the very least if they are unaware of this information, they could use it to better serve all their patients.

COVID-19 News: Harvard And MIT Study Alarmingly Shows That SARS-CoV-2 RNA Integrates Into Human Genome With Varying Implications

3. This thread also contains links to strategy building content  (e.g., PDF's of the Zelenko protocols and access points to drugs/prescriptions). The medical treatment/supplement information is near the top of the thread post and I noted one or more comments by FReepers about additional supplments they've researched.

Suppressed Information About the Covid-19 Vaccine' | Vol 01 Date: 03/20/2021

 
4. The following is an excellent guide for treating Covid at home prepared by physicians; I think we should all print out and share it far and wide.

A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment

Thank you for asking the question as it has helped get me started on pulling together ideas about this. I wish I had information for you about what physicians will be working on to address this potential need. I know that white hats are aware of these issues and will give it the priority attention it deserves. I just don't what that could involve.
 
5. As soon as I posted the prior email to you, I found additional information. Therefore, I'll add this point to remind us to continue our research after our initial strategy is developed because information will become available in leeps and bounds.
 
6. The following examples indicate that our strategic plan may include reviewing the link below to see if we are using zinc depleting medications. This could be true for other minerals etc. (e.g., Vitamin D3 - do products/habits deplete levels?)

https://www.stlukes-stl.com/health-content/medicine/33/000728.htm

So there's information out there. There is medical concern out there. There are medications and supplements out there. There are fellow patriots out there. And then God is everywhere.

Prayers up!

1,634 posted on 03/31/2021 10:13:26 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Ckcpossum
Gah! A link dropped off my prior message. Here's the thread that has a link to a PDF you may want to print and share.

Informed consent disclosure to vaccine trial subjects of risk of COVID‐19 vaccines worsening clinical disease
onlinelibrary.wiley.com ^ | October 20, 2020 | Ronald Veazy, Timothy Cardozo

Posted on 3/29/2021, 12:01:38 PM by ransomnote

1,640 posted on 03/31/2021 10:24:23 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Ckcpossum

Welcome aboard FRiend.


1,679 posted on 03/31/2021 12:10:11 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Ckcpossum

Welcome!
I’m in the same boat. My hope is that Trump the Titan has tampered with the vaccines to make them safe or that he’s got a cure for the vaccines all queued up and ready to go.
I’m hanging on to that until we know for sure.


1,684 posted on 03/31/2021 12:26:32 PM PDT by Melian (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens. ~ Gimli)
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To: Ckcpossum
Welcome aboard. As to your question, only some serious unknown tech is going to fix getting the vaccine. What they do to the mRNA is forever. Unfortunately the end will not be for everyone.


1,779 posted on 03/31/2021 5:33:26 PM PDT by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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To: Ckcpossum

VACCINE health dangers...

Put your hope in the GREAT PHYSICIAN. John 3:16


1,971 posted on 04/01/2021 8:24:10 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 33:12))
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