Posted on 03/20/2021 9:54:12 AM PDT by bitt
You are a little bit off on the 110 volt 12 amp car charger. It is more like 20 hours for a full charge from 25%. The 220 is about right at 8 to 10 hours. The commercial fast chargers can take up to 1.5 hours but you generally don’t fast-charge to 100 percent because of the amount of heat generated in the battery while you are stuffing all that electricity in there. I get 80% from about 15% in about 55 minutes. I can go 200 miles at 80% and get down to 15%. Fast chargers are all over the place. I went from Northern California to Southern Washington in 15 hours. That’s about 600 miles. I left home at 90% and made 3 stops to charge along the way at 1 hour each stop.
As someone mentioned above, what about long distance 18 wheeler trucks, not to mention long commercial trains. They both run on diesel and electric batteries that need recharging are just not feasible. Then you have airplanes. I'm all for chores around town and to work and short trips for entertainment.
Question not asked: If the government got rid of oil production, what would be used for plastics and other products that rely on oil by-products? Look around your office, your medicine cabinet, your entertainment systems - they all use plastic. Yes, I know about innovation. Are the chemists now addressing replacement for said by-products?
For example, when I plan a trip from Memphis to Tullahoma, TN there are four Electrify America fast charging stations along my route... I may need only one of them to top off my battery for the 275 mile trip. The stop would only take about 20 minutes - enough time for a rest stop and a snack. Now that is not taking my battery from empty to full. That may take two full hours at a fast charge location. But that is rarely needed. Most EV drivers going on a really long trip plan out strategic stops and only fully charge at a place where they are staying overnight or for several hours.
Go to Google maps and plan a route. Then add “charging stations” as an option. You will see a lot of them on your route.
Thanks for the explanation.
Well there’s the Bolt - that’s an EV not a hybrid however.
I thought they were pursuing more hybrid alternatives.
Anywhere where the market is deregulated it seems like chaos in the order.
If you know of a deregulated energy market that works point me to it. I’ve worked in the energy industry for 2 decades and all of them are horrible in my experience.
Keep tabs on the EV industry - that market is exploding right now.
Battery manufacturers are building like crazy in TN, OH, and GA for all types of makes/models coming up.
In about 3-5 years there might be a type that meets your needs, but the infrastructure needs to be built and that will take some time.
Regarding fuel cells, I wouldn’t bank on that. One major grocery chain who will remain unnamed had an incident that caused significant damage out in California a few years back. Word got out and it’s not really considered a safe technology anymore.
Good chatting with you! Good stuff!
they can go toot their electric cars in Europe.
We’re sticking with any company that makes good ol’ gas guzzlers.
[shrug] I’m not proving anything. Those who have tried EVs mostly like them. Major auto makers are shifting to producing them on a large scale. Governments are facilitating, when not compelling, their adoption. The technology is rapidly improving. Charging options are increasing. Most naysayers are depending on increasingly obsolete arguments. At some point cost & convenience wins out.
So more proof by assertion to allegedly not prove anything?
There is no such thing as an obsolete argument, any more than (as we increasingly discover daily) ther is any such thing as obsolescence. Those who follow the path of communistic “planned obsolescence” run into this obstacle whether they wish to or not.
Thanks, for fixing...
Cheers
ha are you freaking joking? California REGULATED themselves into the dark. It’s an example of total regulation by leftist government.
Do you even live in Texas? I have been here for forty plus years and I can tell you our problems were only recently created by left wing policies that forced the closing of multiple coal power plants and introduced the commie LIE of wind and solar energy. We also ceded control of the grid to a bunch of left wing kooks with Ercot. Why do you think so many of them resigned? They are running for cover to avoid having to answer questions about what they were up to.
Zero survival skills? In Texas? There were over a million people without power for days in single digit temperatures in an area that sees cold temperatures in that range only a few times in a century. Had a disaster of this magnitude happened in a blue state utopia thousands would have died.
A word of caution: seasonality.
I suspect real Texans generally held up well under those difficult circumstances. I also know that real Texans are disappearing among the hordes of ill-prepared new arrivals from other states -- and from Asia and Latin America.
The Tesla 3 is cable of drawing ~250KWH at the new version supercharges. The S and X models built after the Tesla 3 was introduced are also capable. The charge rate starts to drop off the battery is at 50% or so. It doesn't make sense to charge past 80% unless you really need the range. The problem is the version 3 superchargers are rare outside of big metro areas.
The model 3 charging is limited at the older supercharging station to the charging rate at the station which I believe is ~140KWH under ideal conditions. If the charging station is full, then you are sharing power with car next to you.
The same can be said for gas powered vehicles when electric prices are through the roof or supply sucks.
But you're absolutely right-the government should keep its sticky fingers off this issue and let the market function as it should.
Why isn’t roof of an EV a solar panel? Serious question. You park in the summer sun and then the sun can trickle charge the battery.
just outta curiousity, how much for a full charge from low??
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