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To: 17strings

So now (per Wictor) Mike Pence is a patriotic expert on missile development and clandestine operations?

(I can’t wait to read what ransomnote has to say about this bit of news!)

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Welp, I fear I grate on the nerves when I ‘say things’ about Pence.

But, I have to say it’s not good news. They are still positioning Pence as plan B. Likely they aren’t optimistic about Xiden and Kamala remaining in their Castle Rock roles and Pence is the fallback.

If Wictor’s claims that Pence was in charge of Miller’s Spec Ops, because after a lifetime in the military, Miller didn’t know anyone he could trust, wasn’t preposterous enough, we now have him pivotal in missile development.

Thanks to Wictor, I now have an absurd image of Pence with a pirate’s patch over one eye, parrot on his shoulder, pointing a hooked right ‘hand’ and saying, ‘Thar she blows!’ as the missile contacts the target.

Pence had to be on the ship to watch the blast because there is no mil or civilian technology in use during Covid that could relay images he would find usable at his level of expertise - he needed to watch it live?!!! *my pirate impression* ARGGGGGHH!!!

I watched an interesting video of a photographer specifically charged with mil learning weapons systems, watching all development demonstrations, being present when the weapons are fired, if not firing himself, and then for the big testing day, filming high definition video of explosions or other weapons deployment because they don’t waste those live practice rounds - the record them (video and other) for long term use by multiple uses by many different disciplines.

Remember when they mounted a camera on a missile and filmed it entering the targeted window of a bunker in the ME? That was probably around 2003. You’d think with satellites able to image golf ball sized objects, and mil electronic/video record keeping, that Pence could stay home. *smh*

I’ve gotten the impression in the past that the Navy was likely the most compromised of the forces. But that’s only if I understood some of what was decoded - and that’s not a sure thing. And that was about 2 years ago.

Over time I have begun to think it makes sense that this insurgency puts their energy into hidden assets and subs are indeed hidden. So tunnel warfare (hidden assets), Spaceforce (the DS must have their own because people like Obama via Elon Musk gave it to them), and submarines are just of the 3 fields of battle where they can hide. Cyberwarfare is ‘quiet’ as is economic warfare, medical warfare etc. This allows attacks that escape international notice and it’s why people think ‘nothing’s happening!’

I think much of the ‘action’ or conflict has been hidden beneath the waves (watch the water) and other former CIA have said that the Deep State has their own hardware (planes, ships, subs etc.) so the aggressor vessels need not actually be navy or known enemies. There’s a network of submarine tunnels on the ocean floor and yes, entering continents and connecting with land based underground tunnels.

Remember the plan wherein the Deep State would fire a missile from a sub to make it look like NK was the aggressor and provoke a US attack on NK to ‘get things going’?

Wictor says if we don’t know about Pence’s ‘talents’ it’s because we haven’t researched him. It wouldn’t take much research to ‘discover’ Pence betraying our country on the national stage repeatedly. Wikipedia reveals Pence’s resume to resemble that of a homogenized ‘community organizer’ (e.g., someone with aspirations who doesn’t want to work but wants gingerbread on their resume).

In the past I thought Wictor was CIA because at the time he expertise in foreign coup/unrest right down to local gov/tribal levels, and he said his professional experience provided him authoritative understanding of a roadside bomb blast in the Middle East. He analyzed the image of the blast in a way I suspected reflected expertise but he could have appropriated the analysis from others. I never get a mil vibe from him.

Wictor does say he has PTSD and as a result, he was defrauded twice by others. Perhaps military experience and/or combat could account for the PTSD but there are so many causes. Here’s a quote from his ‘about me’ at thomaswictor.com:

“... post-traumatic stress disorder with secondary psychotic features, as well as the “brain fog” caused by Meniere’s disease. Both of these conditions create memory lapses and dissociation, which were exacerbated by the suicides of Wictor’s parents in February and October of 2013.”

Such grueling experiences to endure.

I recall Wictor had what I considered excellent information about Argentina and how overthrow there was being mimicked here. Again at the time I thought that might reflect significant knowledge of CIA ops.

None of his bio that I read reported any knowledge or experience of military or alphabet agency intel, which again seemed to me to be CIA or intel history (not like they put it on their resume).

I still find it confusing but have come to believe that the way the disinfo types infiltrate and disrupt is to SOMETIMES bring good information, if possible, the best information not available elsewhere, because then people believe what they are told when disinfo is introduced.
Sporadic doses of valid info is the currency that buys you a place at the table. The Deep State has a lot of the same intel the white hats have. If they think some is or will soon be exposed, they offer intel up on the Internet and yes, it is impressive. Then, when the introduce false information (’Pirate Pence’) it’s harder for some to dismiss or debate because peeps have seen and appreciated good stuff from that source before.
I think the disinfo game is similar to a drug dealer handing out ‘free’ drugs...at first. Then the user gets hooked.

If disinfo agents arrived with nothing to offer, or are largely watchers and not contributors that people appreciate, they would be/are poor disinfo sources; no one would consider them credible.

I believe the only ones with the need to win respect for Pence that he’s never been able to win for himself in his decades of trying would be the Deep State. Wictor has an impressive intellect - I don’t see how he could ‘mistake’ Pence for Spec Ops leader or missile expert. That’s a bridge too far.


808 posted on 03/17/2021 3:23:20 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Welp, I fear I grate on the nerves when I ‘say things’ about Pence.
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Wictor has an impressive intellect - I don’t see how he could ‘mistake’ Pence for Spec Ops leader or missile expert. That’s a bridge too far.


Great post! I found your insights and analysis worthwhile, as usual. The Pirate Pence imagery gave me a smile. ;-)

Having known about Wictor’s PTSD claims, I’d only recently become aware of his parents’ suicides. He claims to be so aloof and calculated and emotionally above it all, but how can all that past turmoil not have had a very real impact on his mind, I have to wonder? Whether the combined mental stresses, or possible derp-connections, are responsible for his odd pronouncements on certain topics is another question. If the latter, then your “disinfo game is similar to a drug dealer” analogy is apt. But as to his military knowledge with no apparent actual experience, he does say that being a student of war is a lifelong passion of his. I just don’t know what the deal is with him. I admit to being drawn in by his style and eagerly reading whatever he has to say, but sometimes, you just gotta shake your head...

I think it would be awesome if you were to get into Quodverum to personally take him on! Now that would be something, wouldn’t it? Of course, it would have to be a mighty well-executed “clandestine operation”, as I understand they’re quite decidedly unfriendly over there towards anything related to the 17. ;-)

Oh, and happy Q of March!


819 posted on 03/17/2021 4:56:15 PM PDT by 17strings (If you've posted a good meme or cat .gif, chances are I've stolen it!)
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To: ransomnote

840 posted on 03/17/2021 7:03:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ransomnote

I used to follow Wictor a lot. Now I’m doubtful. He’s either completely full of crap or he’s not or somewhere inbetween.

I’m not sure where I sit. Ever since the election he’s been wrong, he won’t admit it and keeps stringing it out. He will be three years from now if he’s makes it that far. But I could be wrong.

I still appreciate his posts shared here. The man is not stupid. And he’s a fellow WW1 history buff so he can’t be all bad.

-SB


841 posted on 03/17/2021 7:13:32 PM PDT by Snowybear ( )
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To: ransomnote
Regarding your Pence as a pirate post, do you know why they won't let little kids into a pirate movie?

Highlight this line for the answer: Because they are rated ARRGGGGHH!

WWG1WGA

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

865 posted on 03/17/2021 8:44:02 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: ransomnote

Wictor’s PTSD is not military related, per some of his threads I have read — some of the experiences when he was a child-seeing his father kill people at close range-close enough to get brain matter splattered on him. It was a violent place where they lived.


873 posted on 03/17/2021 9:43:34 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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