Adverse Incident Reports Show 966 Deaths Following Vaccination for COVID-19

Epoch Times ^ | March 6, 2021 | Celia Farber

[Cathi]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/adverse-incident-reports-show-966-deaths-following-vaccination-for-covid-19_3723384.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-03-07

"According to adverse incident reports collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 966 individuals have died after having received an mRNA vaccine for COVID-19."

Data covers only through Feb. 19 (that is all the data that has been released so far.) The chart shown indicating when deaths occurred after first vaccine is very interesting. Over 50% of them occurred during the first week after vaccine.

[Cathi]

The useful information in the numbers in the chart I posted is that they are dramatically much higher soon after the vaccination and consistently trend down the further out you get from the injection.

Several people have mentioned “correlation or causation” and suggest that there are other things besides vaccination that could cause death. Yes, of course, but those things (cancer, heart attack, stroke, etc.) would be as likely to cause death during any other week as they would during the first. But, these numbers indicate that the only difference in the amount of death seen is how recently they have been vaccinated.

These are the same people being measured throughout this study. They are the same age as they were initially and have the same comorbidities they did at the time of injection.

Norway medical bureaucrats describe these immediate/early deaths as “suspected adverse drug reactions with fatal outcomes....and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients.”

[Wuli]

O.K.

I get your point.

However, then my questions would be:

that does not the analysis suggest more caution is needed when giving the vaccine to those with pre-existing comorbidity issues

and

does not that suggest the vaccines have the most risk for a group - already medically vulnerable - that the vaccines are considered most needed for

but also that MOST other groups do not have the same (as high) risks post-vaccine as the already medically vulnerable groups???

And all of that is statistically (odds) speaking, and even while higher risk still not what even most who are already medically vulnerabl are seeing?

And therefor what should MOST people see in all of that?

[Cathi]

Yes, the early data in this gene therapy experiment (and this is an experiment) strongly suggests that older people (Norway picks 75 as a cutoff date) and frail (Norway picks Clinical Frailty Scale 8 or higher) patients should not be vaccinated.

And yes, the vaccines definitely do have “the most risk for an already medically vulnerable group that the vaccines are considered most needed for.” Ironic, isn’t it?

And yes, “most other groups do not have the same risks post-vaccines as the already medically vulnerable groups.” The under 60 groups only had 10% of the total deaths.

But, keep in mind there are other risks that they have. Statistically the younger group have a higher amount of adverse reactions than the older group which is attributed to stronger immune systems. One researcher said that they are seeing 10 times more adverse reactions with this program than they see with the flu vaccines.

And, of course, the younger group has less overall risk from covid.

[SecAmndmt]

“So 966 // 58 million have died and please note this is not a death that is caused by the vaccine according to the data but coincidental to it. Seems to actually confirm the statistics that roughly 8000 people in the United States die per day.

But hang on just a second. The flat earthers will be by to demonstrate their group think and breathlessly proclaim the usual nonsense. Their only sadness will be that this demonstrates nothing and that people aren’t spontaneously misting while getting a vaccine that prevents witthoit exception severe disease or death at day 60!”

Let’s talk science.

First, is there any double blind, placebo (saline, not another vax or adjuvants) controlled data?

Is there full blood work plus urine organic acid data (measuring body chemistry) before vax, each day of the first month after, weekly for 6 months afterwards, monthly for 5 years, and then annually up to 10 years? For each and every vax recipient?

That’s the kind of dynamic data set that would be needed to build a model. I know, because I do that kind of work for a living.

Waving you hands and declaring these vaccines “safe” is of no more value than Joe Biden declaring them safe. Neither would be worth spit in a Court of law.

[gas_dr]

Not only are you a flat earther you have idea of clinical medicine. Using your paradigm we would all die before we could do sometime about emerging pathogens. And yet you continue your flat earth theory with your dogmatic and incorrect discussion about or non treatments.

Thank God you are not clinical. It would take you 10 years to feast a hangnail. Finally got play with your models. My colleagues and I actually treat and deal with humans.

This is breathtaking in terms of your general approach.

[nascarnation]

Honorable Minister Farrakhan has spoken, what more do we need?

[SecAmndmt]

“Not only are you a flat earther you have idea of clinical medicine”

I see that what you practice in regards to vaccines is devoid of science.

[gas_dr]

Whatever. Paralysis by analysis is typical of the flat earjer.

[Cathi]

This is interesting. Surprising that the condition was found among the vaccinators.

“The Israeli Ministry of Health has decided to investigate the effects of pericarditis among vaccinated people. The decision was made after reports of a number of infections in the membrane and heart muscle were discovered among vaccinators.”

“Yesterday (Wednesday) a meeting was held between officials in the hospitals and the Ministry of Health during which these phenomena were reported by some of the hospitals. In a directive sent to the administers of the hospitals by the Ministry they were asked to forward, as stated, a report of every incident of myocarditis discovered among the vaccinated and to forward the referral to the cardiology department of the hospital.”

[SecAmndmt]

“Whatever. Paralysis by analysis is typical of the flat earjer.”

As I have always said, vaccination has never rested on science, but on humanistic faith.

Your attack on data and analysis of data to confirm a hypothesis (how science is conducted, outside of conventional medicine) illustrates the obvious.

A flat earther is less of a threat to your patients than their attending physician!

[SecAmndmt]

In his case, the old adage about the broken clock applies.

[HandyDandy]

Good rant! You even included a Ring Lardner reference!

“SHUT UP”, he explained.