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ALICE COOPER SAYS ROCK IS NOT DEAD, IT’S WHERE IT SHOULD BE
UltimateClassicRock ^ | March 4, 2021 | Martin Kielty

Posted on 03/05/2021 6:29:29 PM PST by nickcarraway

Alice Cooper argued that Gene Simmons’ famous comment about rock being dead applied only in a business sense and that, artistically, the genre was “where it should be.”

Kiss member Simmons made headlines in 2014 when he claimed that rock music had been “murdered” by technology and attitudes in the modern world. “Some brilliance, somewhere, was going to be expressed, and now it won't, because it's that much harder to earn a living playing and writing songs," he said at the time.

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In a recent interview with NME, Cooper countered Simmons’ statements. “I would like him to do my taxes," he explained. "He's a businessman, and business-wise, it’s valid. But I guarantee you, right now, in London somewhere, in garages, they're learning Aerosmith, they're learning Guns N’ Roses – a bunch of 18-year-kids are in there with guitars and drums, and they are learning hard rock.”

He added that he believed the same thing was taking place in the U.S. “In some ways, rock ’n’ roll is where it should be right now," he noted. "We’re not in the Grammys, we're not in the mainstream. Rock ’n’ roll is outside looking in now, and I think that gives us that outlaw attitude. And I think that’s very good for rock ’n’ roll, ‘cause that’s how rock ’n’ roll started. We were all outlaws at the time, and then we became mainstream.”

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Cooper asserted that the rock genre “started and never ended” and that the roots of newer styles of music could be traced back there.

He said that, through all those changes, “the Rolling Stones were still the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith was still Aerosmith, Alice Cooper was still Alice Cooper. We survived those things because guitar-driven hard rock is the only thing that will still be going 30 years from now, 40 years from now. And I think music will go all over the place, but you're gonna find those hard-rock bands still there.”

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To: BobL

“As long as people like her continue to support Biden,”

Alice Cooper (a man) didn’t like to mix music & politics. Although he supposedly supported Bush. He like Dolly Parton doesn’t want to lose part of his fans, by being political.
And Alice is a golfer.


41 posted on 03/05/2021 7:22:26 PM PST by FreedomGuru (Joe Biden isn't my President and never will be.)
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To: dayglored

I think back when we were in high school. You always knew on Monday morning, half the students would be wearing the T-shirts of the band that played that weekend. You knew every student’s favorite band, argued about who was the better guitarist, or drummer.

I still laugh because one of my friends, was the most hardcore fan of REO Speedwagon, always wearing their T-Shirts, and then, Hi-Infidelity came out, and they became a “chick band”, and he vowed never to listen to them again, he felt betrayed....we took our music seriously, lol!


42 posted on 03/05/2021 7:22:41 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Ransomed

I think the newest rock record I still listen to fairly often is Radiohead’s “In Rainbows”, and that was back from 2007.


43 posted on 03/05/2021 7:25:18 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway
Here's a current rock band. Alter Bridge. Somewhat of a queenrÿche sounds musically but less mystical, little harder hitting.

https://www.youtube.com/c/alterbridgeofficial/videos

I live on rural MO so all we get is new country, old country, Christian music, old pop and classic rock. If I drive to St Louis, I can hear new pop but no new guitar driven rock. Even my sister in FL says she listens to new rock but talks about 10-20 year old stuff like Stone Temple Pilots.

44 posted on 03/05/2021 7:29:45 PM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: dfwgator

The girls in my middle school class were always arguing over who was better: Prince or Michael Jackson. Us guys just stayed out of that argument. I remember that like it was yesterday. Ha ha


45 posted on 03/05/2021 7:34:36 PM PST by lodi90
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To: a fool in paradise

It seems to me people in the UA quit going to shows in the USA before covid, or at least a large % did. A lot of “widely obscure” semi-popular cool rock acts seem to tour in Europe and overseas mostly, and hit the 3 biggest cities or so in the US maybe. But yeah, there hasn’t been a ‘live show covid rebellion’ coming from a bunch of rock acts, at least that I’ve heard about.

FReegards


46 posted on 03/05/2021 7:36:24 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: nickcarraway
...the genre was “where it should be.”

Well, I don't know about that, but country sure ain't.

47 posted on 03/05/2021 7:41:36 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Bullish
My biggest gripe with classic rock radio (at least the station in my area) is that it pretty much sticks to the best-known songs of the greats and ignores the deep cuts. Sure, sometimes the best-known songs of a given act are their best, but you have to occasionally throw in stuff like, for instance, "The Rain Song" by Led Zeppelin. And for that matter, Thin Lizzy did other good songs besides "The Boys Are Back In Town" - and not all of them are on Jailbreak.
48 posted on 03/05/2021 7:41:43 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("I don't come from money. I come from the opposite of money. I come from... no money." - Ron White)
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To: dfwgator

I think my newest ‘regular rotation’ is Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats—Wasteland. From 2018 I think.

Freegards


49 posted on 03/05/2021 7:43:55 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: nickcarraway

So No More Mr. Nice Guy!


50 posted on 03/05/2021 7:48:34 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: nickcarraway

I just don’t see Alice Cooper as a democrat. He’s too smart.


51 posted on 03/05/2021 7:51:52 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
I agree, a computer could write and perform a pop hit today. That is why people are discovering, and rediscovering, hits from the 60s and 70s. My mid twenties daughter who is a trained musician said the music was better because back then people actually had to be able to sing.

Music videos killed rock. I love old videos of concerts by Deep
Purple, CCR, Styx etc... They were filmed pre-MTV and are great, even if the sound is not up to today's digital standards. I did like some stuff by Disturbed , Greta Van Fleet and Black Keys, but I know I will not be around in 30 years to see if they stand the test of time. I doubt they will. But, I know that Rock from 40 years ago has stood the test of time. Maybe it was the times, maybe it was the new sounds and the new drugs, maybe it was us. Whatever it was, music videos seemed to coincide with the decline in Rock.

52 posted on 03/05/2021 8:11:05 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me.)
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To: Bullish
> As a seasoned musician I constantly need new music. Everything gets played out for me fairly quickly, even stuff that I really really like. My brain constantly needs to hear new stuff and I'm incessantly searching for it.

You make a valid point. I guess I only differ in this regard: I started to play by learning the Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, John Mayall; later Hendrix, Clapton, etc. I've been playing that stuff more or less continuously for 50 years. For me, it never gets old, once I learned to improvise solos and interpret rather than copy.

OTOH, these days when I want something to do, I go back and find something I never learned then, and get it under my belt. Recently it was Ritchie Blackmore's solo in Highway Star, something that was beyond my skill back then, but now I have a decent shot at it. :-) Why learn it? I'll probably never play it in one of my bands, but no matter -- it's a good exercise and it stretches me, it's an item of personal expansion. And improvising in that particular quasi-classical mode is kind of fun.

All that said, hearing (good) new stuff is great, and I agree with you that it also can be a useful stretch.

53 posted on 03/05/2021 8:27:59 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: nickcarraway

Alice Cooper,
I was 18 when He sang;
“I’m 18!”


54 posted on 03/05/2021 8:29:22 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: OldGoatCPO

yep, playing to an image and flash cuts rather than the audience.


55 posted on 03/05/2021 8:31:25 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity)
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To: dfwgator
> I still laugh because one of my friends, was the most hardcore fan of REO Speedwagon, always wearing their T-Shirts, and then, Hi-Infidelity came out, and they became a “chick band”, and he vowed never to listen to them again, he felt betrayed....we took our music seriously, lol!

Indeed we did. And we did argue -- Beatles vs. Stones, Beatles vs. Monkees, Dave Clark Five vs. Herman's Hermits, .... I was something of a Beatles purist up through Sgt. Pepper and felt betrayed when they went all goofy after that, although Abbey Road was a masterpiece.

As a guitarist early on I craved Cream and Hendrix, it's always been electric blues-rock for me. Still is.

56 posted on 03/05/2021 8:38:22 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: BobL

You pulling legs? Alice is a male & all around good guy. He played golf with our own JackelopeBreeder and Goldwater, Jr. I’d be very surprised if he supported Biden.


57 posted on 03/05/2021 8:42:34 PM PST by WWG1WWA (Beware the fury of a patient man. -John Dryden )
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To: nickcarraway

bookmark


58 posted on 03/05/2021 8:56:53 PM PST by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: dayglored
Thanks for your reply...

Playing old stuff like that for me, is defeating my purpose to always advance my playing ability and knowledge of an instrument and of music in general. I get my kicks by learning a new technique or style. For example, lately I've been kind of fixated on learning and playing jazz chords and progressions on guitar and bass, something that I probably didn't have the skills to do a while back. Now it's gotten much easier and it's great to play new and different chords and explore. In a short while I'll probably get a little tired of jazz chords and I'll move on to something different, but I'll always keep the best parts of the music at my disposal to pull out and play when I get in the jazzy mood.

I'm rambling now...

Any way, Freegards! Like you, I go waaay back to the day. I started playing at 12, over 50 yrs ago.

59 posted on 03/05/2021 8:57:20 PM PST by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: a fool in paradise

“It’s better to burn out than to fade away”...


60 posted on 03/05/2021 9:01:35 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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