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QAnon are pinning their last desperate hopes on Trump emerging as president on March 4
Yahoo! ^ | Feb 27 | Joshua Zitser

Posted on 02/28/2021 5:16:20 AM PST by RandFan

Where does the conspiracy theory come from?

The belief that Trump will be sworn in on March 4 is rooted in theories promoted by the obscure sovereign citizen movement.

The sovereign citizen movement is a highly-fragmented grouping of Americans who believe taxes, US currency, and even the US government to be illegitimate.

A minority of them believe that laws do not apply to them at all, resulting in the FBI designating some members as "domestic terrorists" and "anti-government extremists."

A central tenet of the movement is that the 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, converted "sovereign citizens" into "federal citizens."

This belief also goes so far as to dismiss the validity of any presidency after 1868, making Ulysses S. Grant the last valid president.

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Why March 4?

Before the 20th Amendment in 1933, all presidents were sworn in on March 4.

It was introduced to shorten the "lame duck" period between elections and the start of new administrations.

Given that followers of the sovereign citizen movement reject all constitutional amendments passed after the 14th amendment, they do not view this date change as legitimate.

QAnon followers, who failed to see Trump inaugurated in January, have recycled the argument and reinvented the next legitimate inauguration date.

They say that on March 4, 2021, Trump will succeed the last legitimate president, Grant, to become the 19th president

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: fake; nutjobs; psyops; q; qanon; qtards; tinfoil
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To: enumerated

“ I really don’t think Q is a significant percentage of Trump supporters in reality.”

They were very well represented at the Trump rallies.

CPAC may have a policy against it. Or Q people may not like CPAC.

Who knows


141 posted on 02/28/2021 1:46:19 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: Jrabbit
Why is Trump being beat up because someone believes in Q?
Help me through your logic
142 posted on 02/28/2021 1:49:31 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: enumerated

“I’ve heard these are people that love our country,” Mr. Trump said during a White House news conference ostensibly about the coronavirus. “So I don’t know really anything about it other than they do supposedly like me.”

Trump had many opportunities to disavow the Q movement, but did not.

I second with Trump that Q people are Patriots.and love their country.


143 posted on 02/28/2021 1:51:06 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
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To: Kevmo

Well, yeah.


144 posted on 02/28/2021 1:52:41 PM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: enumerated
said, "The article says March 4"
Who said March 4 yahoo? you believe yahoo? Why?
April 30th is what I'm using as a guide based on what a supreme court justice said. There could be something I'm missing.

The primary point you're missing. The primary job of the military is to not allow the US to fall into the hands of Foreign adversaries. Now that Xiden by force taken control.
I respect the military enough to believe they will carry out their primary duty. Do you? The question for me is "when" that takes place not "if" that takes place. Never should you or I ever relay on an anonymous figure.

145 posted on 02/28/2021 2:00:58 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You are right when you say the mil5does have a 100 day option, however what is never discussed is who in the military is going to pull the trigger and commit treason. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Biden, he is commander in chief. Who at the highest level of all 4 branches of the military say “Thats all I cans stand! I can stands no more!”, and overthrown the govt? The other problem is that Q has become less than a source as a prophecy like Nostrodemus. Most people quoting posts from 2017 and 2018 as if anyone had that forethought to predict the 2020 election. Still waiting on Trump to data dump the evidence they say he has...nothing. I held out hope, but its ridiculous to think the Cavalry is coming. Suck it up for 4 years of living hell, unless civil war comes first!


146 posted on 02/28/2021 2:12:12 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity)
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To: Steve Van Doorn; enumerated

I knew about the March 4 thing from here on FR, as one of the Q followers was posting about it on regular (non Q) threads.

Biden has been sworn in as President, whether we like it or not. He is the duly sworn CIC and our military will not stage a coup against him.


147 posted on 02/28/2021 2:12:14 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: Kevmo
I ended up getting a timeout as a result.

That's a shame. It's Jim's site. He can do what he likes.

But, if he's not careful, the QNuts will be the END of FR.

148 posted on 02/28/2021 2:21:21 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: RandFan

Listening to Trump’s CPAC speech. Sure doesn’t SOUND like he’s planning to take over again soon.


149 posted on 02/28/2021 2:22:23 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: enumerated
but Q is the best thing that ever happened for the enemies of Trump - they are using Q to score easy points.

Very true. The aggressive Savannah Guthrie prime-time interview was a good example. A LOT of people saw that.

150 posted on 02/28/2021 2:29:10 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: CatHerd
said, "Biden has been sworn in as President... He is the duly sworn... (and there is nothing you can do about it")

The logic behind your statement is astounding.
you understand the meaning of "duly"? properly. You understand Xiden is controlled by foreign operatives right? You understand our election was rigged by foreign operatives right?
Explain to me how foreign operatives are a proper group to take over the US government?

151 posted on 02/28/2021 2:30:43 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: firebrand

Yeah, tells stories to uncle she lived with. Not exactly belittling them at a cocktail party.

Leave it up to the douches at FR to turn a funny story into a crusade.

Go suck some lemons. It will sweeten you up.


152 posted on 02/28/2021 2:33:57 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SomeCallMeTim
said, " Sure doesn’t SOUND like he’s planning to take over again soon."

Do you even know what the "plan" is? The plan is a military operation. That in my opinion would mean a new election.

153 posted on 02/28/2021 2:34:24 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

If our military leaders believed that Biden is controlled by foreign operatives and his election was rigged by foreign operatives, and that this cannot be allowed to stand, and they believe the military should intervene, why did 15,000 NG just stand there while he was sworn in?

But have it your way. Wait until the days are up. If no military intervention, then what? Do you give up on Q, or do you move the date forward again?


154 posted on 02/28/2021 3:00:22 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Do you even know what the "plan" is?

Do YOU?

How exactly do you know it?

155 posted on 02/28/2021 3:01:44 PM PST by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Do you even know what the "plan" is?

NO ONE knows what "The Plan" is.. but, we're all supposed to Trust it.

Trump said he MIGHT just decide to win a third election.

156 posted on 02/28/2021 3:06:06 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

The thung seens to be to get moderators on your side of the conspiracy theory fence.


157 posted on 02/28/2021 3:30:55 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Kevmo
The thung seens

Only Q knows what the Thung has Seen.

158 posted on 02/28/2021 3:37:17 PM PST by humblegunner (Balls To Picasso.)
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To: humblegunner

I’d be willing to bet that q owns autocorrect.


159 posted on 02/28/2021 3:40:39 PM PST by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: humblegunner

Now that’s funny! Love it! Thanks for the laugh. This could become the new stuned beeber. I have to go take a shower now. A moose once bit my sister. Cheese.


160 posted on 02/28/2021 3:57:05 PM PST by CatHerd (Not a newbie - lost my password)
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