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To: Cronos

So... using Dr. Mengele’s twin research, or Jap anthrax research from unit 731 is ok.
Got it. I’m sure getting some ethics lessons here.

That kind of activity will never stop as long as it is rewarded later.


22 posted on 02/16/2021 9:51:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: DesertRhino
I said The comparison is more like using the processes and knowledge gained FROM the concentration camps (and the Japanese torture camps) that are currently used in modern day medicine.

YOU said So... using Dr. Mengele’s twin research, or Jap anthrax research from unit 731 is ok.

Got it. I’m sure getting some ethics lessons here.

I didn't give my personal opinion on whether it was ok or not ok. Nor about whether it was ethical or non-ethical.

All I stated was that we are using knowledge and processes gained from the Mengele and 731

At the German concentration camps of Sachsenhausen, Dachau, Natzweiler, Buchenwald, and Neuengamme, scientists used camp inmates to test immunization compounds and antibodies for the prevention and treatment of contagious diseases, including malaria, typhus, tuberculosis, typhoid fever, yellow fever, and infectious hepatitis.

NOW let me give my opinion on some of the matters (which I haven't done so far in this thread): as to whether the acts that were done by the Nazis and imperial Japanese to discover the medical treatments were ethical? NO. Definitely NO. Definitely NOT ok

As to whether us using that knowledge today is ok -- yes. Horrific as the source of knowledge is, we do learn from it. Ditto for whether it is ethical to use these procedures that today save lives. We need to acknowledge the human toll, but using them today is ethical. Doing the experiments weren't.

24 posted on 02/16/2021 9:58:34 PM PST by Cronos
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To: DesertRhino

To add to what you are saying, it is my understanding that HEK-293 is not an arbitrary acronym. HEK stands for “Human Embrionic Kidney”, the cells were harvested from a living child as any cells to become immortal in the lab have to be harvested from a living human being. The 293 indicates that they had to try at least 293 times before the monsters were able to extract living kidney cells. So 292 babies were murdered by Dr. Frankenstein before he successfully got what he was looking for.

As others have said, that was decades ago, we don’t need to concern ourselves with ethics now, it is “remote material cooperation” with premeditated homicide, so it is ok. /sarc

The DNA of that child is still in each of the immortal cells that these monsters keep alive in the lab for the “benefit of mankind”. As Bishop Athanasius Schneider has put it, if you could put yourself in a time machine and go back to that bloody operating room where over 293 children were murdered for the harvest of their organs and cells, you are there in the operating room and you are telling the doctors to go ahead and kill the child, because it will benefit mankind down the road. Yeah, go ahead and slice that child apart piece by piece with no anethesia, and make sure you get that kidney out fast enough that some of its cells are still alive...

I don’t want anything created with either the direct use of those fetal cells in the development, nor in the testing of it injected into my body. Mark of the Beast.


31 posted on 02/16/2021 10:40:51 PM PST by blackpacific ( )
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