So is herd immunity even achievable? Or are we looking at something that is going to behave very much like seasonal flu. And if so, how should our government respond going forward? We know lockdowns don't work and have massive damage on the economy, jobs, and mental health.
Resurgence of COVID-19 in Manaus, Brazil, despite high seroprevalence https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext#%20 “In Manaus, Brazil, a study of blood donors indicated that 76% of the population had been infected with SARS-CoV-2 by October, 2020. The estimated SARS-CoV-2 attack rate in Manaus would be above the theoretical herd immunity threshold (67%), given a basic case reproduction number (R0) of 3.
In this context, the abrupt increase in the number of COVID-19 hospital admissions in Manaus during January, 2021 (3431 in Jan 1–19, 2021, vs 552 in Dec 1–19, 2020) is unexpected and of concern. After a large epidemic that peaked in late April, 2020, COVID-19 hospitalisations in Manaus remained stable and fairly low for 7 months from May to November, despite the relaxation of COVID-19 control measures during that period.
Give me liberty or give me Covid. To heck with these masks.
is it not time to HOLD THOSE WHO MADE THE VIRUS accountable?
No. F off.
Everyone who wants to live in fear should go do it somewhere else and leave us alone.
Haven’t you seen it?
Hospitalizations and cases are plummeting since the installation of Jao Bai Den, Imperial Sphincter with Feet!
The overblown cold is on the run.
I disagree. Unless this virus mutates like the seasonal flu, it will eventually be mostly gone. As I understand, the current vaccines cover all the mutations we’ve seen this far. Now, if that changes then yes, it’s with us forever. Barring that, between attrition from vaccines and natural reinfection resistance (I think my father was one of the few in his nursing home to get it twice and most got it once), I see it petering out over time.
Meanwhile “cases, cases, cases” and “deaths attributed to China Virus continue to plummet.
Isn’t startling how as soon as they changed the NPS testing procedure to cycle 20 times from the previous 40+ times the positive rate dropped to virtually nothing and continues to plummet.
Biggest scam in history.
Why take an experimental vaccine only approved for emergency measures that the maker has no liability for....and still be required to wear a mask which they say “protects” us. Kind of redundant if you ask me.
The numbers which are pure lies to begin with and are dropping rapidly because Biden is in office. Had Trump been in office they’d be peaking yet again.
Vaccine wise, why take a vaccine that doesn’t prevent you from getting the disease again, doesn’t prevent you from spreading it, they still want you wear a mask and the disease itself is 99.95% survivable.
You would think that with a title starting with "Do the Math", and in a publication called "Stat", the author would understand mathematics a bit. This is simply not the correct definition of herd immunity. The difference is subtle. When each person infected with a disease passes it, on average, to more than one new victim, the number of victims grows exponentially. If each victim, on average, passes it to exactly one new victim, the number of victims stays constant. If each victim, on average, passes it to less than one new victim, the number of victims will eventually drop to zero. That's herd immunity.
The issue then becomes: "How long does it take? With a disease like these Corona viruses, there is a period where most of the victims are resistant to reinfection. In this case, there is also a vaccine, now. This greatly reduces the opportunity for a diseased carrier can pass the disease to a new victim. In the COVID-19 case, the carrier is contagious for only a few days. He has only those few days to do his part in passing on the disease. With a declining pool of potential victims, the odds of that happening decrease.
The US is already at that point. The daily number of new cases is well under half that of when it was at at its peak. This is at a time when there is nearly universal availability of testing in the country. The daily death rate has also been declining for a month. We have already reached "herd immunity". The only question now is how many weeks (or months) will it be for the disease to drop out of the media cacophony. That is not a mathematics issue.
What I don’t get is why people are not being tested prior to vaccination to see if they already have immunity? Seems like a waste of doses if the person doesn’t need it.
Interesting that somehow the pandemic is receding astonishingly quickly, down nationwide about 75% in just the past month.
Only 6% will refuse this sham vaccine?
This is depressing.
We truly have the walking dead among us.
False memes since the word is that the vaccines don’t keep one from getting or spreading the virus - they want to have their cake and some of Nancy’s ice-cream too.
The Spanish Flu in 1917/1918 burned itself out after a couple years with no vaccines or other intervention, and it was far more deadly than COVID.
Sure they wore masks, but it didn’t seem to help them either.
It had to run its course, like almost ALL disease does.
There is no comprehensive study nationwide in the US to ascertain any level of accuracy of immunity from prior SARS-CoV-2 infection.
I wonder why. /s
Cases are dropping due to the procession of the Earth around the Sun, not to to any Earthly or human effect, proven by the examples set forth around the globe, the most recent contrast given between FL & CA.
Politics launched this fake crisis, politics profited for a chosen few and politics is extending the ‘virus crisis’ for maximum benefit of those few.
Government, in turn, takes full advantage.
The domestic enemies are not those portrayed by the media and rogue politicians and are, in fact, quite easily identifiable.
‘Vaccines’ are a metaphor and a convenient mass distraction from reality.
They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Patriot began to hate.
Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the Patriot began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the Patriot began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred,
It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Patriot began to hate.
“as we start to concede that Covid-19 will become an endemic disease that will continue to lurk in the population. For the foreseeable future, that means continued physical distancing; occupancy limits...”
Or it just means that we go on with our lives and quickly develop a natural immunity to it like we do to the seasonal respiratory viruses that pop out of the woodwork every other year.
It’s good that “science” is consistent, undisputed and reliable because just this morning experts were saying herd immunity would be achieved by late 2nd quarter.