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Check Out The Damage To This Japanese Submarine After It Collided With A Cargo Ship
The drive/War Zone ^ | February 8, 2021 | Thomas Newdick

Posted on 02/09/2021 4:48:15 AM PST by mowowie

The diesel-electric attack submarine was surfacing when it impacted the 51,000-ton commercial vessel off the Japanese coast.

A collision between a Japanese submarine and a cargo ship in the Pacific Ocean has resulted in injuries to at least three submariners, according to initial reports. The incident occurred today at 10:58 AM local time, around 25 miles southeast of Cape Ashizuri, in the waters off the island of Shikoku, which lies southwest of Japan’s main island of Honshu.

The submarine involved was the first-in-class Soryu, one of 11 of these diesel-electric attack submarines active with the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF). The submarine entered service in 2009 and was taking part in a routine training exercise at the time of the collision.

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To: Joe 6-pack

Not a submariner, but a US sub had a similar incident in 2001 when performing an emergency surfacing drill. It came up below a Japanese fishing vessel off Hawaii, resulting in the boat sinking and killing 9 passengers. There are details in the Wiki describing what they checked on before surfacing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehime_Maru_and_USS_Greeneville_collision


21 posted on 02/09/2021 5:44:16 AM PST by kaboom
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To: mowowie

The Soryu? No way.
We sunk it at Midway


22 posted on 02/09/2021 5:44:36 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: ETL; Chode; All

Nothing a few hundred rolls of good quality Duct Tape won’t patch up.


23 posted on 02/09/2021 5:48:12 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
They filled it up with Tetraodontidae and raised Her😉.
24 posted on 02/09/2021 6:04:40 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: mowowie

I don’t think I would sail on a ship named Soryu.


25 posted on 02/09/2021 6:10:27 AM PST by edwinland
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To: Lower Deck
Modern passive sonar tells the sub where something as noisy as a merchant vessel is very accurately. My guess would be that the sub was either trying to practice a following maneuver to hide it's own presence or they just screwed up.
26 posted on 02/09/2021 6:42:22 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: ETL

Now that’s a wingding!


27 posted on 02/09/2021 6:44:18 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: ETL

It’ll buff out


28 posted on 02/09/2021 7:01:23 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: mad_as_he$$

I would imaging that passive sonar would have noticed the not-particularly-stealthy cargo ship if anybody had really been listening.


29 posted on 02/09/2021 7:03:59 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: PapaBear3625

Count on it!


30 posted on 02/09/2021 7:06:47 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Joe 6-pack

I have seen two submarine surfacings in the western Pacific, back in the 1980s. Each time, the sub sent up white smoke flares that burned on the surface for at least five minutes and a red paraflare before the sub appeared. The correct response for any ship encountering these pyros was to keep her propellors turning and give a wide berth to the smoke cannister location.


31 posted on 02/09/2021 7:20:02 AM PST by punchamullah
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To: mowowie

Somebody is probably looking for a new job.


32 posted on 02/09/2021 7:23:24 AM PST by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: mowowie

Just a bit of trivia...this ship is not the first to bear the name ‘Soryu’. There was one before it, an aircraft carrier....

Which the US Navy beat the hell out of before she was scuttled and sent to the bottom in the Battle of Midway.


33 posted on 02/09/2021 7:26:47 AM PST by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: mylife

Ping to sub thread...


34 posted on 02/09/2021 7:29:53 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Not really.
Yes! But only if you are a long way off, listening to the sides or off the stern of the approaching merchant ship. This one, at 51,000 tons, is fairly small, and so has relatively less mass and cargo spaces and voids between the engine room (noise source) and the bow of the cargo ship.

A bigger one, (100,000 tons to 250,000) tons are actually very, very quiet when you are just trying to listen to their engine noise while your submarine is front of the bow.


35 posted on 02/09/2021 8:14:39 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I've only ever been on a museum sub in Charleston, SC. I'm not a submariner, but would hope for comment from those in the know. Wouldn't it be standard protocol, before surfacing, to come up to periscope depth, sweep the horizon 360 degrees, and then surface?

Well, that IS when you get hit by the surface ship: You (the submarine) are trying to stay under control going to periscope depth at 3-4 knots so you can get your periscope up and verify that there are in fact no surface ships in the way. But if the sub's keel is (for example) 66 feet, then the top of the sail is 10-15 feet from the surface. Very, very easy to get hit under the wrong circumstances.

That there are so few sub-surface collisions (maybe 1 per decade for thousands of surfacing evolutions by every submarine the world's fleets) is a mark to the effectiveness of the underwater search and sonar checks now being done.

36 posted on 02/09/2021 8:19:59 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: mabarker1

37 posted on 02/09/2021 8:28:38 AM PST by Chode (Ashli Babbitt - #SayHerNAME)
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To: mowowie

These cargo ships are winning every encounter with a warship.

Maybe we need to take a look at that.


38 posted on 02/09/2021 8:34:02 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: edwinland
It could be worse.

39 posted on 02/09/2021 12:02:25 PM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: jmcenanly

Ha ha! (Had to google it)


40 posted on 02/09/2021 12:09:03 PM PST by edwinland
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