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Alaska cruise season could be over before it begins as Canada bans ships for all of 2021
the Points Guy ^ | 2d ago | Gene Sloan

Posted on 02/06/2021 11:40:18 AM PST by Capt. Tom

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To: llevrok
The Jones Act strikes again!

The anti cruise people have a few more cards to play.

Even if the cruise ships use USA crews, the cruise ships are foreign built and should not be used for carrying passengers in the USA.
Also CDC 7 day cruise restrictions limits them from visiting a foreign country in cruises leaving from parts of the West Coast and New England. -Tom

21 posted on 02/06/2021 12:26:14 PM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: packrat35

Canada has a Deep State, too.


22 posted on 02/06/2021 12:37:33 PM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: Capt. Tom

From its *waters*????? From its ports...maybe,but what harm can come from a ship sailing from Seattle to Anchorage without a stop in Canada? Absolutely disgusting!


23 posted on 02/06/2021 12:45:01 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: NormsRevenge; All

To read about the economic hardships on some of the Alaskans you can glean it from this similar article below. -Tom

https://thepointsguy.com/news/alaska-cruise-ban-impact/?utm_source=TPG%20Daily%20Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1976774&utm_usr=4dce219d2d312a42bb4238a91f8c6832b022489b7c037548dae7fdb7c8cf64b9&utm_msg=43f686a460e04ea48a036acd05b1f470&utm_date=2021-02-06


24 posted on 02/06/2021 12:46:22 PM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

It would just be way to simple and reasonable to grant at least a temporary exception to the stupid Maritime laws of the US. The giverment might actually have to do something useful and constructive for a change. I’m sure if they did the whole system would simply explode.


25 posted on 02/06/2021 1:01:38 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: Gay State Conservative
... but what harm can come from a ship sailing from Seattle to Anchorage without a stop in Canada? Absolutely disgusting!

No harm at all. The only problem there is that the Jones Act has a bunch of very onerous and expensive requirements for all domestic maritime travel between U.S. ports. Any ship making this trip must be U.S.-made, U.S.-flagged, and operated by a U.S. crew.

This is why it's cheaper to transport cargo between Los Angeles and Singapore than between Los Angeles and Honolulu ... even though the ship traveling from Los Angeles to Singapore sails past Hawaii on its voyage.

26 posted on 02/06/2021 1:07:49 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Sequoyah101
Granting a "temporary exception" to U.S. maritime laws for something as extraneous and discretionary as a stupid luxury cruise makes no sense.

Tariffs on imports to protect U.S. industries from foreign competition: "That's patriotic! MAGA!"

Restrictions on domestic maritime transportation to keep out foreign competition: "That's stupid!"

27 posted on 02/06/2021 1:13:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: Capt. Tom
The anti cruise people have a few more cards to play.

Where I live (near Seattle), they usually stop in Victoria BC en route to AK.

So why not pull into port for 2 hours or so, no one gets off the boat, and then takes off again. I guess the pilot who gets on or off would be the only concern?

28 posted on 02/06/2021 1:46:44 PM PST by llevrok (I'm old enough to remember when the quarantine was to be 3 weeks)
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To: llevrok
Where I live (near Seattle), they usually stop in Victoria BC en route to AK.

So why not pull into port for 2 hours or so, no one gets off the boat, and then takes off again. I guess the pilot who gets on or off would be the only concern?

Canada has banned any cruise ships in their ports until 2022. -Tom

29 posted on 02/06/2021 1:57:45 PM PST by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2021 - The Events, not us, are still in charge -Tom)
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To: Alberta's Child

Nothing to work with here. No sense wasting time.


30 posted on 02/06/2021 2:03:11 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (I have a burning hatred of anyone who would vote for a demented, pedophile, crook and a commie whore)
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To: rey

Cruising is over forever. ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ


31 posted on 02/06/2021 2:07:47 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (They HAD to kill somebody for their plan to work. RIP Ashli.)
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To: Jonty30
Yes, in order for Alberta to get itโ€™s oil to the coast, it has to have tankers off the port in Rupert.

Transmountain looks like it goes to Burnaby. I don't find a Rupert, but I do see a Prince Rupert. There are the connections to the US - Keystone (not to be confused with the democrat cancelled Keystone XL) and the lines to Wisconsin and Montana. There are always the ports at Houston and Louisiana that the Canadians can use.

32 posted on 02/06/2021 2:09:45 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Capt. Tom

I know. I lived and worked in Vancouver 2982-85. I can believe they wouldn’t let a token pit stop in Victoria like I suggest. Turdo’s government is more nuts than what I recall from back then


33 posted on 02/06/2021 2:16:58 PM PST by llevrok (I'm old enough to remember when the quarantine was to be 3 weeks)
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To: PAR35

That’s what Keystone was supposed to be fur, to get our oil to Texas, Loisysba and Oklahoma. The tradeoff was our access to world markets in exchange for a secure access to oil fir the US.


34 posted on 02/06/2021 2:26:45 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: Capt. Tom

A lot of cowards in Canada. Sad. Pathetic.


35 posted on 02/06/2021 2:28:21 PM PST by glennaro (Tyranny can only be defeated by force ... physical force. It doesn't just "go away" by itself!)
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To: PAR35

Yes, Prince Rupert. That’s a basically a massive port city that is closest to China and Russian ports on their east coasts.

It’s quite impressive on Google Earth to see.


36 posted on 02/06/2021 2:43:40 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults. )
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To: PAR35
f they re-flagged to register as American ships, then they'd have to use American crews.

Not enough. To be American flagged the ship has to have been manufactured in the US, to protect American shipyards. I don't believe there are any American shipyards making cruise ships, and if there were that would have no impact on existing ships. The solution would be to amend the Passenger Vessel Services Act, which imo would be common sense. Simply eliminating the requirement that a ship embarking from the US visit one foreign port would solve the Alaska problem. Even if just for a couple years. And would require Congressional action. The Big Guy can't do it with an EO. He is in office to enforce American law after all. Not that that matters. I give you the cancelation of construction of the wall, Congressionaly approved and funded. Stopping it a violation of the impoundment act. An impeachable act imo. But so what, who cares about laws.

37 posted on 02/06/2021 2:54:07 PM PST by SJackson (If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun...folks in Philly like a good brawl, BH Obama)
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To: scrabblehack

See post 37. To be American flagged a ship has to have been made in the US. That could easily be changed by Congress.


38 posted on 02/06/2021 2:55:33 PM PST by SJackson (If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun...folks in Philly like a good brawl, BH Obama)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Well played Canada!

You're correct. A beneficial swap for both countries, the US allows the pipeline, and Congress amends the Passenger Vessel Services Act. It's all on the US. Needs Congressional action though, so dems will add some funds for refugees.

39 posted on 02/06/2021 2:58:14 PM PST by SJackson (If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun...folks in Philly like a good brawl, BH Obama)
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To: SJackson

You had me going there at first. I thought I was going to have to dig out my canned lecture on America no longer being under the rule of law. But you started showing awareness mid-stream.

By the way - I found a ship for you - made at Ingalls. Pride of America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_of_America


40 posted on 02/06/2021 3:06:56 PM PST by PAR35
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