Posted on 01/08/2021 6:15:48 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
I haven't seen anything regarding this.
The flip side is, if an unarmed black blm/antifa female had been shot, DC would be in flames.
But we're the violent domestic terrorists.
All veterans are instructed in “interior guard.” That is what I meant. All means all.
Final defensive positions are never marked. They are on paper in the emergency plan, and known by all of the guard force.
There is a element of common sense missing here. If you storm an access-controlled federal building, you may get past the initial guards. But if you continue, you will arrive at what is known as the final defensive position. And if you are interpreted as a threat, there is only death. That is just the way it is.
You can test everything I said. Ask any former embassy guard (like myself). Or any federal police that doesn’t just write tickets: they have the mission of protecting people, classified, and property. They will tell you that when it comes to protecting people, it’s not negotiable— you get killed really quickly if you pose a threat.
That is why they were hired.
I do realize the emotional argument. She was a beautiful patriot. But even if she wasn’t. If she was butt-ugly with wooden teeth...the outcome is the same.
When an unarmed, nonresisting, unwarned American citizen is deliberately shot, it’s murder. You clearly never served on a court-martial board.
I wrote “Why was no tear gas or other non lethal response deployed before the mob approached the perimeter where lethal force would be used” Note the word BEFORE. You’re making it sound like these were Zulus swarming over the perimeter at Roarke’s Drift and the cop had no choice but to mow down the surging horde.
Yet the other cops didn’t fire. I don’t buy “reaction time” as an excuse. Didn’t the shooter retreat into an elevator after firing? That doesn’t fit the last stand of the Capitol police scenario. I just can’t see this as situation as you describe it.
Actually I have. More than you know.
The cop would have no idea whether or not she was unarmed. That is only guaranteed if a person goes through the proper security checkpoint.
American or Ecuadorian. It doesn’t matter. The final defensive position doesn’t care about emotion. They only test that will be valid is if the officers believed there was a threat to their principals. That is it.
I know it hurts, but Patriots are looking at this from emotion. A guard charged with protecting people is to be feared, not charged. It never ends well.
i told you I agreed there were security failures. There should have been non-lethal force. BREAKING NEWS: The Capitol Police Chief resigned.
I am only approaching this from the point of view of the shooter, a federal cop charged with protecting Congress, and not know the motivations or intentions of a mob, because quite frankly, those intentions cannot be fully known— only that they broke through all other security lines.
Zulus? Really?
All there has to be is a federal building with a cop charged with protecting people with his life and a threat to those people. This isn’t an emotional argument. The final defensive position takes all the guesswork and emotion out of it: the cops had no where else to fall back to.
FAFO. She found out.
Ms. Babbitt died Wednesday after being shot by the Capitol Police, the police said, as she was part of the crowd aiming to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election. Capitol Police identified Ms. Babbitt Thursday and said the officer who shot her had been placed on leave while her death is investigate
Which is complete horsehocky, and you know it. Every protected space has large signs clearly warning anyone that "deadly force is authorized" beyond that point. If you have really been a member of the Marine Security Guard, you'd know that. I have been to that part of the Capitol on numerous occasions in the past and I have also been to several embassies all over the world - and special weapons sites. Those protected sites have visible warnings. And there are several steps taken prior to reaching those points where warnings are issued and/or nonlethals deployed.
The embassy Marines in Tehran who were faced by thousands of violent Iranian rioters never fired a shot because they had the discipline and courage to hold their posts and follow the orders of the ambassador.
Even Finicum got a verbal warning.
I was told that the actual shooter can be seen shooting in a video posted on crazyshit.com.
I have not seen it and the website is not a site I would go to in mixed company or if you are squeamish.
Why were no protestors shot when the Wisconsin Capitol building was occupied for SEVERAL DAYS. Was the final defensive position located in Michigan?
You are very lucky that in your duties that you never did what this cop did, in these circumstances. If you had killed someone under these same circumstances, I would have referred you to an Article 32 investigation and then a General Court-Martial for murder.
You are 100% correct.
Left by elevator, multi statements and vid confirmation BEFORE vids are made grainy, cut shot to not show before and after, and conflicting statements on social media throw doubt on what’s been seen recorded and referenced.
So the last line scenario is, was and always shall be plausable IF the person did not walk off after assassination of the unarmed female.
Who stood in that person’s place, that last line AFTER the action.
FF BS assassination.
You are delusional. Pick a federal building near you and do the same thing. Bring some friends. The outcome is the same.
This cop will be exonerated.
State versus federal. I am only familiar with federal training. States do what they want to.
I haven’t seen anything regarding this. The flip side is, if an unarmed black blm/antifa female had been shot, DC would be in flames. But we’re the violent domestic terrorists.
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Yes, the blatant double standard for all the world to see except of course those blinded by their hatred for DJT and the USA!
Being called terrorist by the Ministry of Propaganda is one thing, being called terrorist by Ted Cruz is what really pisses me off.
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Yes, way too many people who should know better being induced by the rhetoric of the enemy to shoot their mouths off making comments that are ignorant and untrue. It’s infuriating.
“a sworn USCP employee discharged their service weapon...”
” the USCP employee has been placed on administrative leave and their police powers have been suspended pending...”
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Yes, the use of “their” twice instead of “his” or “her” jumped right off the page at me. I thought whoever wrote this is only semi-literate or masking the gender of the perp, probably the latter.
4.You are condoning a policy that is anathema to American citizens and our rights under the Constitution. This wasn’t invading a nuke site, this wasn’t an armed insurrection, this was a group of ordinary Americans who were trying to get the government’s attention while they were voting on our future,
Ashli was murdered - and by excusing the man who did this, you are trying to justify it.
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Perfectly reasoned and stated. Thank you!
And you never made it past sergeant, did you?
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