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Rep. Thomas Massie Lays Down Some "Hard Truths" About January 6
Red State ^ | | Jan 05, 2021 3:45 PM ET | By Becca Lower

Posted on 01/05/2021 4:31:12 PM PST by RandFan

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To: DesertRhino
He needs a few hard truths.

He needs all all expense paid trip to Venezuela....to experience hard truths in person....if he makes it back..then he can tell us some hard truths....not just guess about them...

21 posted on 01/05/2021 4:56:45 PM PST by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: pnz1

Lots of people thought Clinton, or Obama, or Carter, or LBJ was “The end of the world as we know it”, too. They were wrong then and the people with their hair on fire thinking that the Republic Is Finished are wrong now.


22 posted on 01/05/2021 4:56:50 PM PST by RedStateRocker ("Never miss a good chance to Shut Up" - Will Rogers)
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To: RandFan
(2) No state has sent a competing set of electors. Each state has sent only one slate of electors. No state legislature has asked Congress to reject its state’s electors.

I've been saying this for the past couple of weeks here on FR. The # of times people have insisted that "but..but..but..there are TWO SLATES of Electors!!" exceeds my ability to count.

If we're going to win in the future (and it's my fervent hope we get a LOT better at winning), we need to get our heads out of the sand and start acting on REAL, not false or "hopium", info.

There have never been two sets of electors for ANY state. Perhaps something will change soon - AZ looks promising in that regard. But so far, there is one, and ONLY ONE slate of certified electors for each state, which presents quite the problem for the good guys.

23 posted on 01/05/2021 4:57:44 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: DesertRhino

Not with the Capitol and DC Metro PD.


24 posted on 01/05/2021 4:58:35 PM PST by sauropod ("No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain)
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To: RandFan; All
Rep. Massie is reminded that when he took his oath to protect and defend the Constitution, he committed himself to helping to guarantee a republican form of government in each state.
"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government [emphasis added], and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

Helping to guarantee a republican form of government for each state certainly includes listening to disputes about vote-counting integrity imo.

25 posted on 01/05/2021 4:59:34 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: GAGOP

I don’t believe the House vote on the challenges would be by state delegation. That seems to only apply to the House selecting the President. I have heard some people, including Lara Trump, make the same assumption that you made but it’s not clear what their legal basis for that is, if any.


26 posted on 01/05/2021 4:59:50 PM PST by SFConservative
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To: RandFan

Bears repeating
Jon wrote that “false hope is worse than steely-eyed realism.”

You can’t say it any better than that


27 posted on 01/05/2021 5:01:14 PM PST by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: RedStateRocker

Clinton, Carter, LBJ or (God help me), even Obama was nowhere near the threat to the future of America that the current far, far, FAR left, beyond extreme Democrat party is.

Even Obama didn’t threaten to:

- Pack the courts
- Pack the Senate
- Eliminate the Filibuster
- Create 2 new states and (4) new reliably D Senate seats
- Spend $90 TRILLION DOLLARS (more than all the money in the world, combined) on “The Green New Deal”
- Spend God knows how much (many Trillions) on “Reparations for Slavery” (I never owned slaves..bet no-one else here did, either).
- Implement a “Wealth Tax”
- Give “free” Healthcare to Illegal Aliens
- Eliminate all College Debt
- Start up “Universal Basic Income” (um, who’s going to PAY for that?)
...the list goes on..and on..and on..

By comparison to today’s left, Clinton, LBJ and Carter would be “far right conservatives”. And that, quite simply, is utterly terrifying and what is at stake.


28 posted on 01/05/2021 5:02:56 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: RedStateRocker

Maybe now..but not wrong in several weeks.


29 posted on 01/05/2021 5:04:42 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: RandFan
Someone in my other thread said the date is set by law and cant be postponed?

If the law abridges the constitutional powers of the state ligislatures to choose their electors in a reasonable amount of time, then yes the unconstitutional law should be ignored.

30 posted on 01/05/2021 5:04:59 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RedStateRocker

“Lots of people thought Clinton, or Obama, or Carter, or LBJ was “The end of the world as we know it”, too. They were wrong then and the people with their hair on fire thinking that the Republic Is Finished are wrong now”

Uou are so wrong. Have you missed the great increase in censorship of patriots, violence againce patriots...supported and defended by local and state governments?...persecution of patriots defending themselves? Are you blind? Did you miss that Obama not only spied on Trump’s campaign, but persecuted conservative and Christian organizations. We are literally on the brink, this is the hill we die on.


31 posted on 01/05/2021 5:11:37 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: DesertRhino

Pretty sure it’s “three on a match.”


32 posted on 01/05/2021 5:14:30 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: MayflowerMadam
“No state has sent a competing set of electors. Each state has sent only one slate of electors.” Isn’t that incorrect? Didn’t GOP in swing states send its own list of electors?

In that five swing states, the Governors sent a slate of electors and the Republicans sent a competing slate of electors.

Both slates are unconstitutional.

The "manner" in which the states send electors is through the legislatures. And it's the legislatures that "direct" the electors.

33 posted on 01/05/2021 5:15:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RandFan

Here is a hard truth: there are a lot of riflemen waiting on the results. None of them will accept a Marxist result.

Many of those have dealt horrible violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere.

FAFO.


34 posted on 01/05/2021 5:16:23 PM PST by Salvavida
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To: sauropod

it’s happened in places with harder security forces than the DC assclowns. Ceausescu comes to mind. Kiev comes to mind.
Yes, they can be overwhelmed and their buildings stormed.

And yes, it can happen here. Mobs do things people alone won’t. That’s just a fact.


35 posted on 01/05/2021 5:19:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: RedStateRocker
Lots of people thought Clinton, or Obama, or Carter, or LBJ was “The end of the world as we know it”, too. They were wrong then and the people with their hair on fire thinking that the Republic Is Finished are wrong now.

The difference between then and now is day and night.

Do I really need to summarize for you the level of censorship, the level of voter fraud, the level of corruption in the DOJ, the level of Chinese infiltration and the level of the radicalization of the Democrat party, all today, vs back then?

36 posted on 01/05/2021 5:20:37 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: gundog

It might be. I missed Guadalcanal. I wasn’t even an indecent thought yet. But if there’s a sniper in the dark, I think two is pushing it. Hell, I think striking a match AT ALL is a bad idea in a foxhole.


37 posted on 01/05/2021 5:21:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: DesertRhino

Zipped may have been more practical in the Pacific.


39 posted on 01/05/2021 5:32:16 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: gundog
"Are we past the tipping point?"

I believe so. God help us.
40 posted on 01/05/2021 5:34:12 PM PST by softengine
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