Posted on 12/31/2020 3:14:56 AM PST by impimp
It’s just the flu, bro.
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/12/30/why-picking-your-nose-isnt-just-gross-its-dangerous-in-the-time-of-coronavirus/
Fear porn: Nose picking is dangerous because of Coronavirus. The reality is that I will never give up one of the great pleasures in my life.
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https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/88-year-old-dies-hours-after-covid-vaccination-in-second-such-incident-653721
These people who die of heart attacks right after receiving the COVID vaccine...I think these will be classified as COVID deaths.
https://dnyuz.com/2020/12/29/nursing-home-patients-are-dying-of-loneliness/
Nursing home patients are dying of loneliness...I think these will be classified as COVID deaths.
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Just a reminder - Coronavirus is an overblown hoax and all of the rules and protocols put in place to “protect” us are a pile of trash.
:: Your statement (https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3920274/posts?page=10#10) was that the RT-PCR test for COVID-19 is not specific to SARS-CoV-2 and can’t distinguish between it and other coronaviruses. ::
Equivocation and a lie.
My ASSERTION was the PCR test (NOT the RT-PCR test) “was not specific to COVID-19”.
I will overlook your bald-faced mis-quote as an attempt to “bolster your position and undermine my position”.
A devious and disgusting device of rhetoric.
Next lame assertion?
:: If speed is more important, other tests are available, but they’re less accurate ::
Dude...you just shot yourself in the willy with this reply.
PCR is the same thing as RT-PCR. It's just shorter. You don't seem to understand what the tests are, what they test for, how they work, nor even what they're called. Yet you make these wild (false) statements about what they can and cannot do.
You’ve proven yourself to be a shill for State approved tyranny.
Please, go about your shilly business somewhere else.
Did I?
RT-PCR is the most accurate test available. It’s also sometimes just referred to as PCR. It tests for specific pieces of RNA that only exist in SARS-CoV-2. It will not give you a false positive, but if the sample collection is done so early on that there’s no viral material present at the collection point (typically in the nasal cavity), you can get a false negative. These will show if there’s an active infection with SARS-CoV-2 and will sometimes still show positive for a period of time after an infection because genetic material is from the virus is still present in the individual’s body at the collection point. Is that clear?
Antigen tests are faster and cheaper than PCR, but they can trigger off other things. They’re typically more like 80-90% accurate and can be done in minutes. They’ll only show an active infection as well and they can also miss an active infection more easily than PCR tests.
Antibody tests (also known as serology tests) look for antibodies present in your blood. This is a blood test, unlike the other two. This will go positive about a week after initial infection and remain positive until your body stops antibody production (which it will eventually do for any infection since it’s no longer necessary and burns a ton of energy). These aren’t terribly useful for diagnosing an active infection. Rather, they help diagnose whether you’ve had COVID-19 in the past few weeks or months.
More information is here: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/coronavirus-disease-2019-testing-basics
The only thing I've proven is that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and nobody should ever trust you as a source of information.
I'm against mask mandates. I'm against shutdowns and lockdowns. I'm against forcing nursing homes to accept known-infected patients.
And I'm also against people spreading wrong information whether it's because they're ignorant of the facts or because they're trying to push an agenda. Your modus operandi seems to be to post something that's factually incorrect, but supports your agenda, and then attack anyone who corrects you.
What exactly do you think you accomplish by posting false information and then attacking anyone who corrects it?
The articles don’t say the RT-PCR test gives you a false positive. The articles (the townhall article is just a recap of the NYT article) simply point out that the RT-PCR test will give a positive result when there aren’t a lot of virions present in the person’s system or when the genetic material isn’t from active virions.
There was no claim made that the testing was incorrect. The tests did precisely what they were designed to do: identify whether there was SARS-CoV-2 genetic material present at the collection site. It does that.
The issue is that the RT-PCR test does not provide a metric for the amount of active virus present within the body. Nobody even claimed it would do so. It’s a limitation of the test. If you want a test that both accurately determines the presence and the amount of active SARS-CoV-2 virions within a person’s body, please design one. I’m sure the medical community would love to have one. Nobody in the world has been able to do so yet. You’ll be a billionaire.
“Live Virus Unlikely in Tests Using CT Above 24
According to The New York Times,10 researchers have been “unable to grow the coronavirus out of samples from volunteers whose PCR tests had CT values above 27,” and if the virus cannot replicate, you will not get ill and are not infectious, so you cannot spread it to others.
The Clinical Infectious Diseases review11 confirms this. Under the heading “The Relationship Between RT-PCR Results and Viral Culture of SARS-CoV-2,”12 they point out that “significantly lower” CTs were used in studies that correctly identified infectious patients.
Five of the studies included were unable to identify any live viruses in cases where a positive PCR test had used a CT above 24. What’s more, in order to produce live virus culture, a patient whose PCR test used a CT at or above 35 had to be symptomatic.
So, to clarify, if you have symptoms of COVID-19 and test positive using a PCR test that was run at 35 amplification cycles or higher, then you are likely to be infected and infectious.
However, if you do not have symptoms, yet test positive using a PCR test run at 35 CTs or higher, then it is likely a false positive and you pose no risk to others as you’re unlikely to carry any live virus. In fact, provided you’re asymptomatic, you’re unlikely to be infectious even if you test positive with a test run at 24 CTs or higher. “
Guess what CT number is routinely used in testing ?
I am still waiting to see something related to your screen name, noob.
I bet if we went back to the beginning, we would find that you have posted almost exclusively about the scamdemic, n’est-ce-pas?
So why are you in a conservative forum, other than to defend the narrative?
Why on Earth would a MD make his or her screen name about the 2A, and then post exclusively about the Fauci/Gates wet dream? Let me guess...I’m a “conspiracy theorist” for asking?
Nice analysis.
Waiting for the scamdemic defenders to defend high cycle PCR testing in 3...2...1...
“You’ve proven yourself to be a shill for State approved tyranny.”
Bingo.
Even the his screen name is a canard. He got all defensive when I asked him about his 2A views.
What on Earth does anything you’ve said have to do with anything I said? Is this because you can’t actually challenge me on the facts? You feel like you need to attack something else instead?
For the record, I’ve posted on a lot of different topics, including guns and gun policy. Not that I need to justify myself to you.
I’m not sure why me posting some basic factual information makes you so upset, but if I were to listen to that “doctor” you venerate so much, I’d say you probably need to unplug all your lightbulbs and wear leather shoes.
Pivot
I owe you an apology. A quick scan of your posts from early Nov produced less than 5 unrelated to defending the scamdemic narrative. My bad /s
A real MD talks cv19 and vaccines.
Hat tip to 2aprotects for reminding me to of my daily posting
27 Nov, 2020 07:58
By Peter Andrews, Irish science journalist and writer based in London. He has a background in life sciences, and graduated from the University of Glasgow with a degree in genetics.
"The Portuguese judges cited a study conducted by “some of the leading European and world specialists,” which was published by Oxford Academic at the end of September. It showed that if someone tested positive for Covid at a cycle threshold of 35 or higher, the chances of that person actually being infected is less than three percent, and that “the probability of… receiving a false positive is 97% or higher.”"
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"Testing, especially PCR testing, is the basis for the entire house of cards of Covid restrictions that are wreaking havoc worldwide. From testing comes case numbers. From case numbers come the ‘R number,’ the rate at which a carrier infects others. From the ‘dreaded’ R number comes the lockdowns and the restrictions, such as England’s new and baffling tiered restrictions that come into force next week.
The daily barrage of statistics is familiar to us all by this point, but as time goes on the evidence that something may be deeply amiss with the whole foundation of our reaction to this pandemic – the testing regime – continues to mount."
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/507937-covid-pcr-test-fail/
PCR Inventor: “It doesn’t tell you that you are sick”
The MSM have been going all out trying to pretend this never happened, turns out it did
By David James | OffGuardian | October 5, 2020
"“I don’t think you can misuse PCR. [It is] the results; the interpretation of it. If they can find this virus in you at all – and with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.”" - Kary Mullis
Dr. Tony Fauci - PCR cycles
7,685 views • Oct 30, 2020
https://youtu.be/A867t1JbIrs
Kary Mullis: PCR Test Inventor Calls Dr Fauci A FRAUD!!!
14,834 views • Dec 8, 2020
https://youtu.be/cTWN_PJ8t2o
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
Kary Mullis the PCR test inventor about Anthony Fauci
1,487 views • Dec 11, 2020
https://youtu.be/MwstN_lmum8
Cashing in on COVID: Pandemic turns 50 doctors and scientists into BILLIONAIRES - with more than half hailing from China, Forbes reveals
The pandemic has helped turn dozens of healthcare leaders into billionaires
According to Forbes, 50 doctors, scientists and healthcare entrepreneurs earned billionaire status this year with the majority being from China
Of the 50 new billionaires, 28 hail from China, where virus first emerged in 2019
One notable new billionaires is Uğur Şahin, the physician who co-founded BioNTech, which helped develop the Pfizer vaccine
Another notable new billionaire is Stéphane Bancel, the CEO of Moderna
By Valerie Edwards For Dailymail.com
Published: 22:08 EST, 27 December 2020 | Updated: 09:28 EST, 29 December 2020
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9091687/COVID-19-pandemic-turns-50-doctors-scientists-healthcare-entrepreneurs-billionaires.html
"Maybe the over 4,000 variants of conronavirus have eaten the influenza?? "
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3919968/posts?page=13#13
Mysterious Disappearance of Flu in San Diego Prompted Call for Audit of COVID Records
December 28, 2020 By NEWS WIRE 48 Comments
One of the most bizarre features of the alleged COVID-19 ‘global pandemic’ has been the mysterious disappearance of the seasonal flu in medical and public health record keeping. It’s as if the Flu just vanished into thin air after being the most common perennial seasonal respiratory virus.
As it turns out, recorded seasonal influenza cases have literally nosedived by 98% across the globe.
This improbable phenomenon has led a number of experts to ask, “Has Covid killed off the flu?”
“The disappearing act began as Covid-19 rolled in towards the end of our flu season in March. And just how swiftly rates have plummeted can be observed in ‘surveillance’ data collected by the World Health Organisation (WHO),” reported the UK’s Daily Mail.
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/12/28/mysterious-disappearance-of-flu-in-san-diego-prompted-audit-of-covid-records/
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