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‘Why did it take nine hours to go 130 miles in our new electric Porsche?’
The Guardian ^ | 28 Nov 2020 | Miles Brignall

Posted on 11/28/2020 9:53:24 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Linda Barnes and her husband had to visit six charging stations as one after another they were either out of order, already had a queue or were the slow, older versions that would never be able to provide a fast enough charge in the time.

The couple, who love their new fully electric Porsche Taycan 4S, which has a range of about 250 miles, contacted the Guardian to describe how difficult it is to recharge a car away from home. Their journey would have taken two and a half hours in a conventional car, they say.

Linda says the sense of relief was enormous. “We ran through the entire gamut of emotions in those nine hours – resignation, range anxiety, annoyance and disbelief that this was happening – and finally elation when we realised we’d get home,” she says.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; electric; ev; porsche
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To: cyclotic

LOL


121 posted on 11/28/2020 2:16:52 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
The couple, who love their new fully electric Porsche Taycan 4S, which has a range of about 250 miles, contacted the Guardian to describe how difficult it is to recharge a car away from home. Their journey would have taken two and a half hours in a conventional car, they say.

Linda says the sense of relief was enormous. “We ran through the entire gamut of emotions in those nine hours – resignation, range anxiety, annoyance and disbelief that this was happening – and finally elation when we realised we’d get home,” she says.

Now this is truly a first-world twenty-first century problem.

And I wonder how much that Porsche Taycan 4S cost (over 100K Euro?) and if they got a tax subsidy for purchasing it.

122 posted on 11/28/2020 2:18:48 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.d)
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To: dljordan
Oh the horrors of being "stranded" in a first world country with modern conveniences, technology, and safety.

Range anxiety? -- maybe coloring books and crayons will help the author cope.

123 posted on 11/28/2020 2:24:51 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: Sirius Lee

> I shudder to imagine a Lucas Electric car.

Extra container of “magic smoke” as a standard maintenance item.


124 posted on 11/28/2020 2:34:44 PM PST by Do_Tar (I wish I was kidding.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Brilliant


125 posted on 11/28/2020 2:37:26 PM PST by Hazwaste (Democrats are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: cyclotic

Even a 78 Impala won’t cost much to drive

Many variables, and they can add up fast, especially if you do NOT do your own work.

They put salt on the roads around here, the car makers should donate the salt. It eats everything.

Even without salt the brake lines , twenty years with luck.

Timing chain, back in 78, maybe 100k miles, maybe?

The trans? How many will you purchase?

The small block is a great engine but how was it maintained?

IMO at thirty years lots of problems, like the electrical that I hate. Some plastics turn to crap even the parts thought to last forever like rear ends and wheel bearings ...

A friend into Ferraris, uses a crazy expensive cleaner on EVERY electrical connection (jack, lug, screw...) on the car.
Every two(?) years.

The TCO of an old car is a myth.


126 posted on 11/28/2020 2:37:40 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Nifster

“Plus electric vehicles use more energy than the good old internal combustion car”

Are you sure of that?

If so, how does that work?

I suppose you are attempting to add up the many processes such as mining the ore for the battery?

Are you offsetting for the notably higher efficiency of electric drive? A gasoline engine is only ~30% efficient, electric motor ~85%+.

There is a lot going on in this calculation, please give us a source. Would be most helpful.


127 posted on 11/28/2020 2:55:41 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

19K is just a walk in the park with good maintenance and a bit of luck.


128 posted on 11/28/2020 3:08:15 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: Covenantor

England, especially in the north, has Robin clubs that gather to show off their “cars” every year.

France went more by horse power than wheels and ended up with some pretty interesting cars as well. Unfortunately I can’t recall any at the moment.


129 posted on 11/28/2020 3:12:44 PM PST by oldvirginian (Behind enemy lines in the Old Dominion)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

When you do your energy evaluation be sure and include the energy requirements to produce electricity


130 posted on 11/28/2020 4:10:13 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster
"When you do your energy evaluation "

It was your supposition that electric cars consume more energy

Plus electric vehicles use more energy than the good old internal combustion car

Please show where found this information, if you can?

131 posted on 11/28/2020 4:34:41 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: oldvirginian
The ubiquitous Citroen 2CV is one....

The 2CV referred to the 2 horsepower rating

132 posted on 11/28/2020 5:18:00 PM PST by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Ok whatever. How about a 2010 pickup. The point was that an EV is an expensive virtue signal that makes no fiscal sense using the “I only drive locally” argument.


133 posted on 11/28/2020 5:48:33 PM PST by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: Covenantor

YES!!
How could I forget that little gem of a car?
Uphill a man could walk just as fast, downhill push in the clutch and coast faster than the engine could push the car.
If it’s weird and unusual the French will build it and put it into production.


134 posted on 11/28/2020 6:38:03 PM PST by oldvirginian (Behind enemy lines in the Old Dominion)
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To: cyclotic

New EV’s are currently ~10k over priced, no question about it.

A few years back when the price of gas dropped, there were many value deals on the Nissan Leaf.
It was so bad that Nissan shipped the off lease vehicles to Europe.

Our son drives ~100 miles to work each morning,99% interstate. The pre 2017 Leaf max was 107 miles, not in winter.Yes 1000 miles a week.
He purchased the VW diesel and loved it, until Dieselgate.

The cost of electricity vs gas is about half, and insurance is less, because of regenerative braking they last, no oil changes, air filters...
If you get one at a good price the TCO is way less.

He drives a late 90’s Buick from his grandfather and tries to put the miles on it in good weather, just replaced the brake lines. Mid 20’s MPG and does his own work.
And a two year old Subaru for bad weather.

Ten year old Hondas are thought to be bulletproof and get better mileage if you don’t need a P/U.


135 posted on 11/28/2020 6:55:08 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: oldvirginian

“If it’s weird and unusual the French will build it and put it into production.”

True.
That said, in the early 1980’s a friend had a Peugeot diesel.
I would have bought one if there had been a dealer in the area.

A good thing because Peugeot left the US in the 1990’s.


136 posted on 11/28/2020 7:03:54 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Back in the mid-70’s a friend of mine had a Citroen that had a two stroke engine. It was a cool little car with two tanks. One for gas and the other for two cycle oil. It ran great.
It lasted great until his sister borrowed it to drive from Virginia to Rome, Ga. Somewhere along the line she put oil in the gas tank and gas in the oil tank.
Poor little car never made it home.

I had a Fiat for awhile. Unfortunately the transmission got too hot and the fluid pan never would fit and kept leaking. This was in the time Fiat wasn’t selling here and replacement parts were impossible to get.

A cousin was into British sports cars, especially the Triumphs and MG’s. He kept four or five on the road. He had to open his own junk yard to have parts to keep his cars running. :-)


137 posted on 11/28/2020 8:35:32 PM PST by oldvirginian (Behind enemy lines in the Old Dominion)
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To: alternatives?

” when they got home they might not have power.”

There is that, for the oversized electric golf kart boosters.


138 posted on 11/28/2020 9:17:52 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: JBW1949

“Can you imagine when NASCAR goes electric how long a pit stop will be???”

Quick change battery packs??


139 posted on 11/28/2020 9:20:07 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: TalBlack

“The thing that jumped out at me with this article is that a massive number of the chargers were out of order.”

Think Calf with all those rolling blackouts...........not good if you have a mob of antifarts and BoweLMoves after you.


140 posted on 11/28/2020 9:28:12 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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