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To: HighSierra5

This post is about Pres Trump, the corrupt election, etc., I promise. Thank you for bearing with me for a moment...

Have you ever considered that TPTB might stage a global play featuring a fake antichrist and a fake armageddon? Then the real Antichrist is revealed vanquishing this enemy and stopping the war. Is Pres Trump being setup as this fake antichrist? I have seen many comments out there from TDS leftists that “Donald Trump is the antichrist!” and even other people commenting on seeing these crazed leftists posting this exact statement all over. They accuse Trump voters of “worshipping” him. I was first exposed to this as a question in 2016 when Trump won the election in a chat about whether B. Obama* will be the real Antichrist.

Business hates elections because of risk and uncertainty. As soon as Pres Trump had clearly won in Nov 2016, the markets responded and the result has been prosperity, increased trade and high employment. How long did the steam engine economy last? Approximately 3.5 years from Nov 2016 until about Apr 2020 when the Plague hit, followed by unnecessary Lockdowns and a virtual halt to economic activity causing Financial Crisis. TPTB added Civil Unrest and now Corrupt Officials in the election. Have you ever looked at the Illuminati Card Game? This is a first: 4 or 5 distinct calamity elements at once for about the recent .5 year. And all of these calamities are occurring globally with even election corruption being exposed in more places than just the USA.

Donald Trump is the poster man for white male hetero hegemony-patriarchy, capitalism, Christianity and the work ethic, the culmination product of western civilization. How awful that prosperity was breaking out for 3.5 years, that Trump even made Peace Treaties among adversaries in the ME (get it, Christians? fake Daniel 9:27). Even Marxist Pope Francis is decrying the ‘horror’ of populism and against Pres Trump.

The real Antichrist cannot appear onstage unless global conditions are chaos - he is perceived as a savior messiah, so things will have to be very bad with (as the Bible tells us) Plague, Famine, War, etc. So it may well be that Donald Trump will be the President come January 2021, but prosperity may end and much worse crises may be unleashed, for about 3 more years... or the total period of a Fake Tribulation, approximately 7 years Nov 2016 - Nov 2023, followed by the real Antichrist conquering the fake antichrist and establishing satanic “peace on earth” NWO one world tyranny.

Have you ever seen anyone since Julius Ceasar with more knives in their back than Donald Trump? Thank you for letting me post this possibility here. I was just stepping back and considering how awful 2020 has been when it occurred to me it all went bad at the 3.5 year mark.


1,148 posted on 11/26/2020 4:37:04 PM PST by guthunde47
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To: guthunde47

* I have been increasingly convinced that B. Obama will be the real Antichrist. Back in 2008 the Luke 10:18 verse was pointed out to me: “Jesus said, “I see Satan falling as Barak O Bamah.” (lightning from above, lightning from heaven). B. Obama’s continued inappropriate, divisive and undermining behavior, his failure to recede into the background, his desire for a 3rd term as POTUS (He wants to be King of the World), weaponizing the federal govt, all of it adds up. Google it, while campaigning Biden said there is a place for both Obamas in his administration. They are floating HRC for the UN... placeholder?

I did a lot of research into Masoretic Hebrew, Koine Greek, looked at all 195 instances of Hebrew word bamah in the O.T. and I am more convinced than ever that Jesus was pointing at B. Obama. The linguistics are too much to explain here but suffice it to say that in 3rd century Greek the words ‘lighting from heaven’ (ouranos) were chosen for that Greek-reading audience which then carries into KJV and other bibles. Do you say lightning is in heaven, in the firmament, in the sky, across the land, up above? You see the problem of direct literal translations.
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Why am I researching this while a Pope is pushing for Marxism, basic income, homosexual unions? Barbara Aho thought that B. Obama will prove to be a Falasha Jew (Ethiopia-Kenya) to fool even the Jews that he is their messiah.

I am very concerned about two other issues from the Obama administration: 1. where did all the weapons and ammo go that every federal agency was purchasing - is it stored in certain sections of major cities?, and 2. don’t forget you once had 4 years of enough stored grain to feed Americans but Obama dismissed that program and stopped funding it...it was your tax money spent for your potential need, but it pained Obama so much.

Thank you, and now back to lurking


1,153 posted on 11/26/2020 5:03:42 PM PST by guthunde47
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To: guthunde47

Yes, I have thought about that. Not the same way as you outline though. I have thought that they might try to bring on the “end times” (at least the appearance of) in order to put their own plot into being.

If it’s not God’s time line, they will fail, as have the other dreams of world domination from Nimrod to now. Whatever happens, I hope y’all have 7 years of food stashed and hidden, just in case there’s no rapture.


1,157 posted on 11/26/2020 5:19:09 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: guthunde47

So in your theory, is Trump in on it?


1,172 posted on 11/26/2020 6:08:15 PM PST by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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To: guthunde47

If you’re looking to bring gloom-and-doom into the world, find another FR thread. We’re busy here trying to help our very successful President Donald J. Trump make the world a better place.


1,188 posted on 11/26/2020 7:28:14 PM PST by AZLiberty (As of Monday, May 18, at 9:30 am, I'm a U.S. citizen. And I VOTED!)
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To: guthunde47
If President Trump were the Antichrist (you didn't say he was but yes, the Democrats have tried that one too) he would be very popular - which he is not with those who love homosexual marriage and abortion (i.e. mainly Democrats).

That being said, they ARE messing with "peace with Israel and her neighbors". I do NOT believe this is "the deal" but I could see it being confirmed by a man from Europe (where I think THE Antichrist comes from). Only time will tell.

I fully expected Barack to wind up becoming U.N. Secretary-General, which he did not (or at least not yet - it could still happen). Here is a (now former) Secretary-General basically worshiping Barack.

Look @ all of the Globalist fools in the audience doing the salute, as well.

[The 2014 Global Citizen Festival]




1,259 posted on 11/26/2020 11:13:52 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: guthunde47; LucyT
Have you ever considered that TPTB might stage a global play featuring a fake antichrist and a fake armageddon? Then the real Antichrist is revealed vanquishing this enemy and stopping the war. Is Pres Trump being setup as this fake antichrist?

There are few really sound biblical timeposts for the events of the Day of the Lord at the end of the Church Age.

But one of them is at the inception of the Great Tribulation period--specifically, the Abomination of Desolation event. Matthew 24:15; 24:21; Daniel 9:27. The Lord's return in power and glory is about three and one-half years hence.

Daniel's seventieth week (9:24-27) is probably misunderstood. The seven year term described is probably not a period of time--we think that because nothing is said about the events between the beginning of the week and the mid point of the week.

Like many legal agreements to be performed over a period of time, the seven years is a term fixed by events that happen during the term. Anti Christ only "confirms" the agreement--he is not necessarily even a party to it.

For example, a seven year agreement was one of the ancillary codices to the Oslo Accord--the mid point was fixed three and one-half years after the inception when Israel had turned over the West Bank territories and the Seven Cities to the PA for administration. And three and one-half years after the inception that happened.

Next to occur at the mid point would be removal of the PA charter clause calling for the elimination of Israel. That didn't happen and the seven year term performance stopped. The world has been at the mid point ever since until May 20, 2020 when the PA terminated the agreement.

One of the Abomination of Desolation events is that the Anti Christ will cause termination of the sacrificial worship system. Many of the mainline doctrines call for reconstruction of a third Temple to precede return of the sacrifices. That might happen. But it isn't necessary to see the sacrifices re-established either--Israel conducted the sacrifices for over 400 years in a tent before they were established.

And it is not clear that the sacrificial worship is not in process even today--for example the sacrifice of the chicken before construction continues to be observed; priests in training are conducting the sacrifices regularly even today.

Finally, the who is Anti Christ issue: In John 10:43, Jesus Christ describes the Anti Christ: "I who come in the name of the father you reject; but if another comes in his own name, him you will accept."

In what capacity did Jesus come that "another" will claim to be his substitute? As Messiah promised by God to come from the descendants of Abraham through Issac and Jacob to restore Man's relationship with God.

Anti Christ must be a descendant of Abraham through Issac and Jacob.

The scriptures also identify him as an ancestral Assyrian descendant; possibly from the tribe of Dan that was resettled in the area South of Damascus in modern Syria.

1,338 posted on 11/27/2020 6:19:37 AM PST by David
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