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elcetion news-->This is going to drag on quite a while. Let me cover the basics:
thread reader ^ | nov 7th 2020 | CulturalHusbandry

Posted on 11/07/2020 2:37:41 PM PST by OL Hickory

Dec. 14 rolls by and the vote goes to the house. Each house rep gets 1 vote. Repubs have 26, Dems at 23. Even if they hold all 2018 wins, and gain Pennsylvania seat, they still end up at 26 vs. 24. 25 with Georgia iirc.

Repubs vote Trump.

2nd term for Trump.

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To: OL Hickory

I’ll read the full article but keeping with the long FR tradition of posting without reading past the headline intro, I am guessing this assumes that the vote will end up in the House.

Not sure that is what will happen. Even assuming that it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that tens of thousands of votes in several states are fraudulent or ineligible, what is the proper remedy for the courts? I am not convinced at all they will be eager to throw out an entire state’s EC delegation. I don’t know what the remedy is. I don’t think they’d call for a re-vote either.

I am curious and I think people should demand that the vote counting machine software code be published. See if it is easy to “flip a digital switch” to move votes around. See if the machines are easy to tamper with either by the state officials or by remote hackers. This is something that should be simple. I remember the old “scan tron” machines they had in the 60’s and 70s that counted student test scores (fill in the bubble with a pencil). They were more or less analog and could not be hacked. Just set it and forget it - run the sheets through and grade the tests. Should be just as simple to tabulate votes. Seeing those massive sheets they use in PA and other states was crazy. What happened to the 4x8 sheets they used to use?

And that there are not incredible steps taken to secure the locations and secure the ballots is nutso. There should be 24/7 video monitoring (live stream, no “Epstein prison cell” cameras) of every facility, and every person handling ballots, with audit tracking of ballots, when they were received, where they came from, when they arrived, and sorted and maintained in impeccable condition, sequentially by arrival date. And much more than just that. No more of this “vans of boxes showing up at 3 am” crap.


21 posted on 11/07/2020 3:00:14 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: rockrr

The author is talking about how the House of Representatives elects the President, if they must.

It’s true - when the House elects the President, each State gets one vote. Presumably, each State’s one vote would be decided by that State’s delegation, with majority deciding the vote.

In 2000, when that SHOULD have happened, there were 30 GOP delegations and 19 Democrat delegations, with one tie. So, the idea of Al Gore becoming President was always ridiculous.

BUT

For the House to elect the President, you have to have no candidate with 270 EV. That can happen in a multi-candidate race, or it can happen if Congress, meeting in Special Joint Session, refuses to accept one or more than one State’s Electors.

Unfortunately, in the Special Joint Session, there are 535 votes, each Representative and each Senator having one vote. States do not vote in the Special Joint Session, only individual Members and Senators. The chair breaks ties (Mike Pence, this year). The 2021 Special Joint Session will have a (very small) Democratic majority.

Fun fact: Georgia’s two Senate seats become vacant at midnight on January 3, 2021. The Special Joint Session is on January 4, 2021. The Georgia runoff isn’t until January 5, 2021.

Can the Governor appoint replacement Senators specially for the Special Joint Session?


22 posted on 11/07/2020 3:04:49 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: OL Hickory

Brilliant compilation of various thoughts about our best actions. We have to be aggressive pursuing this. These are legitimate checks and balances which exist to be used when necessary — we should use them.

The fraud and domestic terrorism of those swing states must be overcome. Too much is at stake, I am not the first to use those words.


23 posted on 11/07/2020 3:05:44 PM PST by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: OKSooner

“elcetion?

Really?”

Typing on a smartphone, that ain’t so smart, is frustrating.


24 posted on 11/07/2020 3:05:50 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: OKSooner

“elcetion?

Really?”

Typing on a smartphone, that ain’t so smart, is frustrating.


25 posted on 11/07/2020 3:05:52 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Jim Noble

Wow


26 posted on 11/07/2020 3:06:56 PM PST by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: OL Hickory

You wrote:

Dec. 14 rolls by and the vote goes to the house.
Each house rep gets 1 vote.
Repubs have 26, Dems at 23. Even if they hold all 2018 wins, and gain Pennsylvania seat, they still end up at 26 vs. 24. 25 with Georgia iirc.


Where do the Repubs have 26 and the Dems 23? What are you talking about?


27 posted on 11/07/2020 3:12:10 PM PST by Technical Editor
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To: OL Hickory

Most interesting analysis.


28 posted on 11/07/2020 3:12:16 PM PST by PBRCat
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To: Technical Editor

State delegations. Each state’s delegations vote and each state counts as 1.


29 posted on 11/07/2020 3:13:44 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: OL Hickory

The flaw, is that the corrupt Commie-Rat SoS will certify the results. It would take the State Legislatures to decide to not only get involved, but formally challenge the certification. It would have to happen in multiple states.

The alternative, is judicial involvement, but what could they do? Order a new election - cannot happen in the time frame of the Constitutional requirements.


30 posted on 11/07/2020 3:16:52 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Responsibility2nd

Elcetion

Kind of like circumcision, but they take the WHOLE thing off in public.


31 posted on 11/07/2020 3:18:28 PM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: monkeyshine
I don’t know what the remedy is

There is no judicial remedy. This is a nonjusticeable political question.

There IS a body with Constitutional authority here, but it isn't a court.

32 posted on 11/07/2020 3:20:26 PM PST by Jim Noble
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Subterfuge.

Stay diligent through Christ.


33 posted on 11/07/2020 3:26:55 PM PST by 80skid
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To: rigelkentaurus

“The alternative, is judicial involvement, but what could they do? Order a new election - cannot happen in the time frame of the Constitutional requirements.”

You never heard of judicial penumbras where the constitution is ignored? Where ever have you been hiding?

Constitutional requirements? What’s that?


34 posted on 11/07/2020 3:34:21 PM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Jim Noble

Off the top of my head I don’t know, unless you refer to the 10th Amendment rights “reserved by the states or the people”.

Obviously the courts have some authority over the law and some procedures. And they can serve as an intermediary by demanding various steps such as audits of the ballots, revelation of computer software code, handing over evidence, inspection of ballots etc depending on what case(s) they hear and how far down that road they want to go.

At the very least I’d hope the courts take steps to clean up the mess. Mail-voting is going to become the norm, I suspect, and it needs a thorough vetting. The media won’t do it. The public servants won’t do it. The courts can at the very least lift the veil of secrecy that would force, by sheer embarrassment if nothing else, that all states make changes to the procedures and processes. Voter rolls need to be regularly re-confirmed and updated. Ballots need to have a lot of audit trail data encoded in them. And much more than that.


35 posted on 11/07/2020 3:40:49 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: 1Old Pro

4) clean up voter registry


36 posted on 11/07/2020 3:42:04 PM PST by Lee25
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To: rockrr
The House would vote by state for President, not by member: so California, with 55 reps, gets 1 one vote, just like Wyoming with 2.

BWAHAHAHA

37 posted on 11/07/2020 3:42:26 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: rockrr

Votes are by delegation. Rs control more state delegations. Yes, the OP was unclear on that.


38 posted on 11/07/2020 3:43:16 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Skywise

The only time I would cheer on Hillary is if she were jumping off a bridge.


39 posted on 11/07/2020 3:46:32 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We have entered "Insanity Week." Act accordingly.)
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To: Technical Editor

Republicans have a majority in the delegations of 26 states. Democrats have a majority in the delegations of 23 states. The remaining delegation is tied and presumably would not vote either way.


40 posted on 11/07/2020 3:47:39 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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