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1 posted on 10/23/2020 6:01:46 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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2 posted on 10/23/2020 6:02:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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A good site. Their articles on ANTIFA communication and field organization are also worth one’s time.


3 posted on 10/23/2020 6:06:04 AM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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Bookmarked


4 posted on 10/23/2020 6:10:25 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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5 posted on 10/23/2020 6:12:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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mark for later


6 posted on 10/23/2020 6:13:27 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Keep it simple, and do it right. A lot of the new gun owners, and idiots in general have every attachment they can buy and will either get snagged on something, or not remember which button to push when SHTF.

Both my and the wife’s ARs have collapsible stocks, low power scopes, flip up iron sights, and bipods for longer distance work. Bang bang.


7 posted on 10/23/2020 6:22:29 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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The other reason I run the ACOG is for another type of interface with my PVS-14.

ACOG. PVS-14.

Those two are worth more than my collection of M4s.

Sorry, I'm on a budget.

9 posted on 10/23/2020 6:33:12 AM PDT by Spirochete
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10 posted on 10/23/2020 6:35:37 AM PDT by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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Bookmarked!

Interesting article! Nice post!


12 posted on 10/23/2020 6:44:03 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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ACOGs run well over $1,000. An Aimpoint or Eotech is less than half that. Put the difference into training and range time.

Not even gonna get into the 1/7 to 1/9 debate. And as for actually finding case lots of 77 grain OTM ammo, good luck. Last I checked it was $1.00 a round or so.

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13 posted on 10/23/2020 6:45:40 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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24 posted on 10/23/2020 10:21:45 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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Do you use an ammo vest? If so what do you recommend? My 10 round AR magazines don’t do well in the band of my sweatpants.


25 posted on 10/23/2020 10:26:48 AM PDT by Sawdring
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“But if you want a one n’ done, the ACOG is the one.”

It’s a little rich for the private sector, no?


26 posted on 10/23/2020 10:30:40 AM PDT by dsc (Do not pray for easy lives; pray to be stronger men.)
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I concur with many comments here about the expense of the optics. I have an ACOG on one AR. Works nice for 100 to 400 yards, but as stated, not great for CQB. Certainly better optics at less cost for in close (Aimpoint or Trig) and for distance (a 1 to 6 scope with a decent reticle). If you have battery powered optics, you need backup iron sights. In any case, you are really stretching to get out to 600 with any accuracy with a .223. Maybe better with the upper in 6.5 Grendel or something else.

I concur with the 1:7 twist recommendation. This works with heavier bullets for longer range as well as 55gr stuff in close.

Regarding FF handguards, PSA doesn't have the best choices. There is better and more functional stuff to be found through Breek or Phase5 for example.

I have switched my slings mostly to the Magpul MS4 Duel QD. I like to run two point, but I like the ability to switch to single point in less than a sec. Single point is really nice for switching from right to left handed for CQB corners. The rear attachment point is at the lower receiver buffer tube plate, not on the adjustable stock. I have this on all my sling ready lowers: https://phase5wsi.com/sloped-quick-disconnect-end-plate-sqd-ep.html

Oh, and the article doesnt mention a light at all. You really need something. This is new and I have tried it and really like the ergonomics of it: Cloud Defensive OWL Weapon Light. Its a little more than a surefire these days, but has lots of features that make it worth it to me.

29 posted on 10/23/2020 11:11:28 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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98% of people will not and do not need this type of article. Buy any gun. Pistol, shotgun, carbine, rifle, gas launcher, flare gun ....

Buy a gun you can use and are willing to use.

If your a big time nuts and bolt gun owner, yet go to a public range, encourage, praise, teach .... never compare Peters, I mean guns. Any gun in a citizens hands is the perfect gun.

My 1/7 vs 1/9 vs 1/12 twist for my SHTF bullet weight doesn’t help. If someone asks great otherwise STFU


36 posted on 10/23/2020 7:43:13 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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That’s alright but pretty expensive. There are some good 2 MOA red dots out there for not much money. A 1:8 twist will also work with match loads up to 77 gr., and a longer or even heavier barrel is fine for one who gets accustomed to carrying it around much and using it (for places with more visibility, terminal ballistics, etc.).


37 posted on 10/23/2020 8:41:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Who built the cages, Joe?" --President Trump)
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BTW, a free float hand guard isn’t going to make any appreciable difference for most people other than maybe a really warm left hand. Tacticool dudes with tight slings and a fear of getting dirty like ‘em a lot, though.


38 posted on 10/23/2020 8:59:35 PM PDT by familyop ("Who built the cages, Joe?" --President Trump)
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