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So What Is Going On With Polls All This Year?,Biden Always Ahead?,Never Once Trump Is Ahead? Are The "Powers That Be" Ordering All Pollsters/Networks What To Report?

Posted on 10/15/2020 3:41:27 PM PDT by TealsGuy17

And what is going on with Fox? Remember way back? Maybe it was in August when they were reporting that Biden had a 9 or 10 point lead. Yet, Biden rarely campaigned and never took questions. Even Rush Limbaugh brought this up a few weeks back. Rush pretty much knew what was going on with the fake polls that would never give Trump a lead, not even a two point lead. We all know what's going on out there. And so many listeners on Rush have called in to speak of this matter. They cannot figure out why Biden is ahead. Yah, we all know what's going on in the MSM. When they say Biden is up by 12, it's most likely that it's Donald Trump that is actually up by 12.


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To: butlerweave

Totally, purposely broken polling to aid post-Biden loss complaints.


21 posted on 10/15/2020 3:56:39 PM PDT by RightGuy
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To: TealsGuy17

Follow the money,,,,,Pollsters don’t make money unless they are polling....If President Trump is 20 or more points ahead in many states, what is there to poll?.....But, if a pollster can keep showing a tight race, then the demand for polling services would be very high....Most of the polling results are fictitious to generate a big demand by the respective parties.


22 posted on 10/15/2020 3:56:39 PM PDT by chopperk (L)
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To: TealsGuy17
So we're not outraged, because they Fraud Votes are exponential !!! 😡😡😡
23 posted on 10/15/2020 3:56:43 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Yep, that's the outlier this year. They know the cake is already baked(so something like 2016 never happens again).

These polls give ventilation, when the sh t hits the fan Nov. 3...and beyond.

24 posted on 10/15/2020 3:56:45 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken)
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To: TealsGuy17
Here is my theory for what it is worth:
  1. In the post landline phone era, doing accurate polls is much more difficult.
  2. Since accuracy is so difficult to produce, pollsters need to sell something else.
  3. Telling people that one side or the other is winning is an easier product to produce.
  4. The Left, being based more on what is "Politically Correct" is much more willing to pay for polls that are "Politically Correct". The Right is notoriously honest about being actually correct, and there is not much money in polls slanted to them.
  5. The pollster game is now mostly about making the Left feel good and getting paid to do it.

25 posted on 10/15/2020 3:57:10 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: cgbg

Good analysis!

I might add Climate Change to your list. The perfumed fairies in the Media don’t even know how to ask people who have real jobs about this.


26 posted on 10/15/2020 3:58:52 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: TealsGuy17

Just trying to discourage voting


27 posted on 10/15/2020 3:59:59 PM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep riqght)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
A narrative to justify their recounts and ballot harvesting.

I think you're absolutely right. I was pondering this exact scenario this afternoon.

28 posted on 10/15/2020 4:00:07 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Hojczyk
Carter was way ahead and by election time I think it was to close to call..

Yes, but Carter's internal polling knew the whole time. That is why he attempted to get out of debating Reagan, and only agreed to one debate after Reagan debated AIP candidate John B. Anderson (6%). He knew he would go down and had to do something, and he had a competent pollster/advisor, Pat Cadell.
29 posted on 10/15/2020 4:05:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I think Joe Biden is ahead 50 to 45 right now. Trump might be able to pull a narrow Electoral college victory just like’16.

I think that the current polls results are an artifact of a combination of flawed methodology, the involvement of poll watcher amateurs in the business, and those who are pursuing a predetermined outcome. I won't hazard a guess on the distribution of these three factors, but most pollster suffer from at least one and several from all three. This is just a rerun of 2016.

I know of only two reliable pollsters, Richard Baris of People's Pundit and Trafalger. I think that there are a couple of others, but I'm not familiar with them and they are local or small fry operators. All of the others couldn't predict on what day and date comes after Friday given a current calendar.

The poll results are about to change. During every election, some poll operations shift from influencing the outcome to bringing in an accurate result when compared with the actual election result. This is key for them, because their future business depends on how well they did in the final round of polls. The top lines will change from 6-12 point Biden lead to dead even and ranging for 1-3 points for either Biden or Trump in the Battleground states.

The trend is our friend, and the latest episode of the Biden Crime Family Chronicles are not going to help them

30 posted on 10/15/2020 4:06:12 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Agreed on “climate change” as an additional issue—the key is that questions about it are biased and assume the conclusion.

The key question is:

“Are you willing to substantially lower your standard of living if “experts” told you it would significantly improve the climate of the planet?”

My guess: 60%+ = no.


31 posted on 10/15/2020 4:06:36 PM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: TealsGuy17

My theory is in addition to the polling errors made in 2016, Covid is disrupting society so much that a completely different mix of people is home than ever before. And lets face it, you don’t answer polls when you are not home.

And who is FAR more likely to be home the last 6 months?

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those TERRIFIED of Covid!

So.. the polls are probably somewhat correct, but it’s mostly a poll of those terrified of Covid. Because everyone else is out eating, shopping, working ect


32 posted on 10/15/2020 4:07:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TealsGuy17

Biden up 7 in GA is the one that made me think they aren’t even close in polling...Bush got 1.9m votes im 2004. The Rats still haven’t reached that. For Trump to be down 7 hed probably have to get 1.6m votes...He got 2m last time. Color me skeptical with that poll


33 posted on 10/15/2020 4:09:13 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: butlerweave

“Polling is Broken”
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That is the answer. Pollsters are the first ones to admit it, too. It is extremely difficult to poll these days even if you are a pollster who designs polls that drill down into accurate sub groups, weight carefully for region, education, race, gender etc. And use an accurate turnout model. (And most media polls don’t do that anyway)

Response rates are down to 1%. Republicans are 5 times less likely to participate in any poll. According to pollsters there are more “shy” voters now than in 2016.

For those reasons even the best pollsters will not be able to get representative samples. The industry is dying.

But, things are actually going very well for Trump (and disappointing for Biden in mail in ballots/early voting.)

And all the other indicators besides polling are ALL favorable to re-election...primary results, registrations, enthusiasm disparity between candidates; Gallup 56% say they are better off than 4 years ago to 32% who say they are not. Gallop: No matter who you are voting for who do you think will win....56% Trump; 40% Biden, etc.

Trump will be re-elected.


34 posted on 10/15/2020 4:14:44 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Indeed, polling is broken.

The odd subversion of reality is that every media outlet (including Fox News) reports as if it ISN’T and utterly and completely ignores just how worthless the polls were in 2016 - while citing the very SAME polls now as if they’re fully deserving of respect.

This suggests, to me, a coordinated misinformation / propaganda campaign by the media to depress Trump voters - as if any of us would let polls stop us from crawling over broken glass to vote for Trump on election day.


35 posted on 10/15/2020 4:18:53 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: TealsGuy17

bookmark


36 posted on 10/15/2020 4:20:20 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: JerseyDvl

The media lies to us every single day.

Why would we trust their “polls”?


37 posted on 10/15/2020 4:27:08 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: TealsGuy17

IBD/TIPP shows Trump losing 5% of his 2016 supporters but gaining only 1% of Hillary voters. Biden leads by 18% among 2016 non-voters and 3rd party voters.


38 posted on 10/15/2020 4:27:21 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: TealsGuy17

Dude, its a set up tbarricades contest Trumps landslide victory. They can accuse the Russians as stealing the election for Trump again.


39 posted on 10/15/2020 4:31:29 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (It is the Trump way! It is the only way!)
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To: TealsGuy17

Polls have long ceased to be about reporting opinions, and have morphed into being about MANIPULATING opinions. These incredibly biased polls (biased because of over-sampling of Democrats) are intended to do two things: first, to suppress Republican voters by discouraging them from showing up; second, to cover for the cheating that the Dems ALWAYS engage in, and which is much more massive during this cycle.

Don’t believe the polls. Don’t even pay attention to them - they are as genuine as a gigantic flock of flying pigs blocking out the noonday sun tomorrow.


40 posted on 10/15/2020 4:33:22 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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