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New footage of tanks being obliterated is released as Armenia and Azerbaijan forces battle overnight: Turkey is accused of 'supporting genocide' as Armenia vows to use 'more destructive weapons'
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 29, 2020 | Tim Stickings

Posted on 09/29/2020 4:19:05 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: C19fan

“...while German chancellor Angela Merkel called for an ‘immediate ceasefire’ and France called for an ‘immediate surrender’ for both sides.”


21 posted on 09/29/2020 6:08:59 AM PDT by moovova
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To: C19fan

Armenia used to be a much larger country, till the mooselimbs showed up.

Now, Armenia has retained their mountainous areas.

Always tough to take out an army hunkered down in mountains (Afghanistan, Switerland..)


22 posted on 09/29/2020 6:12:25 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: dfwgator

I agree. I would not help Turkey even if they were attacked by Aliens.


23 posted on 09/29/2020 6:13:51 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Red Badger

They’ve been saying that since 1945.


24 posted on 09/29/2020 6:15:03 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

And it’s been true sine 1945...................


25 posted on 09/29/2020 6:16:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: ruiner

“...speaking of a power vacuum left behind by American disengagement under the current administration...”

Think about it. That was really kind of an offhanded compliment for Trump. The US administration was keeping the peace there.

My question though...why do the Americans have to be the only adults in the room?


26 posted on 09/29/2020 6:19:32 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Red Badger

In a static war, yes. In a mobile war tanks would still have some value. Of course you’re going to lose a lot of them at the point of attack, which is why Herr General Guderian said with regard to tank employment, “Don’t dribble, POUR!”


27 posted on 09/29/2020 6:21:51 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Red Badger

Yet everyone keeps building them by the thousands.


28 posted on 09/29/2020 6:24:35 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Red Badger

Tanks should not be deployed offensively until air superiority has been achieved. In mountainous open country they are also vulnerable.


29 posted on 09/29/2020 6:26:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Under the treaty we Become engaged.”

President Trump would tell’em to stick it. But he’d be in there trying to negotiate a peace...and probably earn a fourth Nobel Prize nomination.

A Joe Biden presidency would jump in feet first, without looking, on the assumption that “Biden Inc” could make some money out of the situation. Hunter would be on Air Force One immediately, flying over to do what Hunter is famous for...


30 posted on 09/29/2020 6:27:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Eisenhower said “Beware of the Military-Industrial Complex.”...............


31 posted on 09/29/2020 6:29:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: central_va

Tanks are vulnerable to small, shoulder fired missiles nowadays. Even with air superiority, being in a tank is practically a death sentence..............


32 posted on 09/29/2020 6:37:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Red Badger

“Even with air superiority, being in a tank is practically a death sentence..............”

If that were true, then Israeli armor losses in action would be nearly 100%. Show me any major operation where that can be documented and I’ll agree with you.


33 posted on 09/29/2020 6:41:15 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Tanks are vulnerable to small, shoulder fired missiles nowadays.

True, and infantry is vulnerable to a bullet that costs $0.15. What is your point?

34 posted on 09/29/2020 6:47:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It all depends on what weapons the enemy has available in their arsenal. They are expensive.

If they have no tank-killer weapons, like the American TOW or Javelin, or the Russian Kornet, then you’re home for dinner.

Hezbollah used Kornets against Israeli tanks in Syria, destroying four and damaging 20 others. But nobody knows how they got them. Russia denies having sold them to Hezbollah and claims they were captured from Syrian depots........yeah riiiight...................


35 posted on 09/29/2020 6:54:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Red Badger
You sit up in that turret baby.
36 posted on 09/29/2020 6:57:35 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rlmorel

Those tanks hit land mines.


37 posted on 09/29/2020 7:04:45 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Red Badger

“Tanks are vulnerable to small, shoulder fired missiles nowadays.”

Ships are vulnerable to torpedos. Planes are vulnerable to missiles. Troops are vulnerable to machine guns. Hooray, war is obsolete!


38 posted on 09/29/2020 7:07:54 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Red Badger

“On July 14, 2014, the Trophy system successfully intercepted a 9M133 Kornet anti-tank missile fired from Gaza at an IDF tank.[28] Since the beginning of the Israeli Operation Protective Edge to July 20, 2014, at least four Israeli tanks of senior commanders were protected by the Trophy system in the Gaza Strip.[29] According to reports from the front, since the beginning of the ground operation, the system successfully intercepted five anti-tank missiles that were aimed at armored IDF vehicles in Gaza.[7] On July 22, 2014, according to a video by a Palestinian group, the Trophy system installed on a Merkava IV tank successfully intercepted an RPG-29 rocket fired at the tank.[citation needed] According to Debkafile, Hamas has tried to stop Israeli tanks with two kinds of advanced guided anti-tank missiles, the Russian Kornet-E, and the 9M113 Konkurs, but Trophy intercepted them successfully.[30]”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophy_(countermeasure)


39 posted on 09/29/2020 7:12:25 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: hinckley buzzard

Sucks.


40 posted on 09/29/2020 7:19:35 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (JOBS NOT MOBS!)
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