[bagster]

Regarding a next step—how about prayer groups in the public square? No masks and lots of gospel songs between prayers. Just brainstorming. Like Christmas carols in summer time? Or go to the courthouse and walk around it singing and praying like they did for Jericho?

You guys' comments keep triggering me tonight. In a good way, not the snowflake way.

This is of the things that have disappointed me about this whole rona manipulation operation.

I keep waiting for Christians. ALL Christians, to rise as one and practice civil disobedience. To flock to their churches despite Caesar's orders.

I have seen a few displays of that, but not in the numbers sufficient to send a message and back Caesar down.

Have modern Christians lost their way or are my expectations too high? I could swear it used to be different back in the day.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[greeneyes]

Unfortunately, I think you are correct—and a lot of the LEADERS of the flock are not living up to their responsibilities.

[greeneyes]

I keep waiting for Christians. ALL Christians, to rise as one and practice civil disobedience. To flock to their churches despite Caesar’s orders.
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Reminds me of Exodus. God sent the plagues-and they impacted everyone. The slaves were so indoctrinated they just kept obeying the slave masters. God was attempting to wake them up. In the end, it was the slave owners who insisted they leave—IIRC.

[Steven W.]

I’ve pondered this - there are a few that are standing up but I think the problem is the same as is otherwise frustrating - people are totally sucked in to the scamdemic.

[Wneighbor]

I keep waiting for Christians. ALL Christians, to rise as one and practice civil disobedience. To flock to their churches despite Caesar's orders.

I have seen a few displays of that, but not in the numbers sufficient to send a message and back Caesar down.

Have modern Christians lost their way or are my expectations too high? I could swear it used to be different back in the day.

I agree with you Bags. I'm frustrated about this. I looked for a local church bucking the system for the 4 weeks we were told to stay away. I was not happy with my church. Made the suggestion we just meet outside. No dice.

I have an opinion on the reason this isn't happening and hubby agrees with me. I think it's because the vast majority of Christians in this country grew up with the comfort and assurance of church and their salvation. Most Christians in the USA don't know what it's like to live a life without Christ, or at least without their secure church family. Part of that upbringing teaches to be good people, follow all the rules, don't break the law, etc. Just the thing that prohibits the church from rising up now.

I did not grow up as a Christian. I did not meet and accept Christ until age 30. It changed my life. Radically. The person I was before Christ is realistically dead to me. I have a past that I never want to live again. I also don't want to see another person live through the same experiences I've lived through. This is not the experience of most Christians in the USA. It isn't my husband's experience. He was a good little church boy.

Hubby and I have talked this thru in many applications over the years. The fact that accepting Christ as Saviour made a tangible difference in all aspects of my life colors my decisions in many ways. I am willing, even excited, to push the envelope to rebel against status quo to further good in the world. I know good change can happen, it's not philosophical theory to me. If we don't act, how can we be an agent for change?

in this whole chicom virus attack I can say that one positive has happened. My husband is finally coming around to my point about taking action as the Body of Christ in the way you describe. I wanted to drive 500 miles to an "illegal" church service the first week. Got shut down on that but a terrific thing happened, he decided it was time to invite some people to have prayer and Bible study on our property. We live in the boonies. Only a couple people ever showed up but at least hubby gets it now.

Stuff's happening among us Christians. Too slow for my taste, but I'm impatient by nature. I wish I was in California to go to one of those beach or WalMart services but we each have to work where we are. It would tickle me pink to be able to jump on my bike and ride 1000 miles to attend one of those services but my body won't cooperate for that many miles. But I do know we've got at least one FreeQ who is participating. I am 100% sure they'd love you to be there too!

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

You are correct.
I’ve said before, if your church is following the orders of the government, you belong to a social club.
They deserve what they get.
The members are the church and should hold such cowardly “leadership” to account.
We are starting but I’m the only sheep dog cutting the herd.