Posted on 08/07/2020 8:03:41 AM PDT by AggregateThreat
The Museum of the Scuola Grande di San Marco in Venice is hosting an exhibit of the Shroud of Turin, which began in mid-July and is scheduled to continue until the September 26. The exposition, titled “The Christ of the Shroud: A Sacred Tridemensional Anatomy,” features a life-sized, 3D model of Jesus, which was created using the physical dimensions of the image on the Shroud of Turin.
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One telling difference between the Shroud and traditional representations is that the wounds caused by the nails were in the wrist and not the palms of the hand. The former would have been how an actual crucifixion was done. Can't really tell from the photo how it's shown on the model.
... living in First Century Judea before the revolt and the diaspora? Not likely. Other than in funereal paintings and mosaics there's no evidence of what anyone's skin color was like back then. Medieval paintings showed the Disciples dressed like 13th century Florentines. A "Mediterranean" look and complexion is presumed but there's no way of being sure. Although, it's probably a safe bet that Max Von Sydow and Jeffrey Hunter were off the mark.
WOW.
Head to shroud.com and have fun. They will have every answer you ever wanted. Cheers!
Thanks. I’m also reminded of the book, “HEAVEN IS FOR REAL”. In which a little boy in Iowa(?) died, spent time in Heaven, and returned, telling of meeting a stillborn older sister, and a Grampa whom he’d never met. He also told of being held on Jesus’ lap and trying to describe how handsome He is. Then, later on, he discovered a portrait of Jesus done by a young girl prodigy who had also had an out of body trip to Heaven. Upon discovering the portrait the boy exclaimed, “That’s him, Dad! That’s exactly how Jesus looks!” I have seen that portrait, and it looks NOTHING like the image on the shroud. I have no problem with that, allowing for the trauma Jesus experienced, pre and during the crucifixion. The gospels say his visage was marred more than any man. And tradition says He was beat up and traumatized to the point of not even appearing human.
Just expressing an opinion.
I noticed the middle bump on his nose.
Imperfectly perfect. IMHO
There’s a slideshow at the site that’s worth looking at.
There’s a slideshow show at the site and, yes, it does show the wounds in the wrist.
This is just something one does not do, violating the Second Commandment, and ignored by many professors of the Christian religion and their denominations.
Thanks and God Bless. BTW, have you watched “The Chosen” yet. I’ve really enjoyed it.
No, but I’ll check it out.
Thanks.
Here’s a link to episode one. Mary Magadelene’s story (among other things).
Cheers,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=craeyJdrCsE
Thank you. You da’ man!
Wow, indeed.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image”
This graven image is directly in violation of the 2nd Commandment.
I’ve heard it said that man didn’t make the image; it was a miracle of God —therefore, there is no violation of the 2nd Commandment -and the person saying it was a Jewish doctor who has seriously studied the shroud.
The stress placed on the shroud of Turin by its possessors seems to indicate that the Word Itself is not enough to produce or sustain a saving faith, but that these other artifacts are necessary.
As a matter of fact, nowhere in the Holy Scriptures does it indicate that any other temporal entity other than His Own Person Incarnated bears His perfect image.
Nowhere in the Word is it indicated that any image was transferred to the face cloth, or onto the burial wrappings used to contain a hundred pounds or so of embalming materials. Please note that there was no one-piece body-covering "shroud" mentioned at all anywhere. It did not exist. Whatever it is now, it is not a part of the record of His earthly history.
Nowhere in the Spirit-inspired writings of the disciples can any indication that they placed any value on these fabrics, or that they were considered holy, or that they were to be saved to remember and believe in Him, particularly after He appeared for forty days after His resurrection, walked with them, and "shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: . . ."
Furthermore, he was seen by more than five hundred people all at once.
But He told the doubting disciple Thomas, who refused to believe that He was alive unless he saw the Savior's wounds, "Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."
Actually, now, for the "shroud" to be accepted as Jesus' burial garment, one necessarily hast to believe that the image on it was that of Jesus, and that it got there by some unknown miraculous process. That is developing a faith in an insubstantial item that cannot be proved to have even existed in Jesus' time. Actually, there is nothing Biblical to support that faith, which makes it a superstition.
You want me to believe that The God made that facial image to remain, even after Jesus' appearance was changed so much that neither His close disciples nor His relative Cleopas immediately recognized Him. So, if this shroud image were of Him (and I'm not saying it was), which Jesus was it, before his death, or after His death, and does it even matter? It didn't seem so to those who knew him. They were more interested in what He said and what He disd and how He did it, that proved He was the same Jesus that they knew, believed, and loved. If you can't believe what they said about Him in the Holy Scriptures, but need some unprovable false broken crutch for your "belief," then it is very doubtful that you will ever see Him the way He is, except your last moments at the Great White Throne.
Does the Bible proclaim that "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God PLUS by seeing, and seeing by the shroud of Turin"?
I don't believe so.
The whole proposition you offer is unbiblical, irrational, and just plain silly. There's not much point in exploring a hundred more loose ends to your story, is there?
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