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Was Beethoven Black? Twitter Debates Race of German Composer
Newsweek ^ | June 18, 2020 | Seren Morris

Posted on 07/03/2020 7:17:51 AM PDT by Stravinsky

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To: jimfree
It's cultural theft. Leftist Bernal tried this 25 years ago with "Black Athena". Socrates was a black, don't you know.

I thought Sharpton said he was a "Greek homo".

41 posted on 07/03/2020 7:58:36 AM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: Stravinsky

What a piece of crock and infuriatingly revisionist history, especially this year, in the 250th anniversary of his birth.


42 posted on 07/03/2020 8:02:39 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: Stravinsky

If Beethoven were black his name would have been LeBron instead of Ludwig.


43 posted on 07/03/2020 8:03:34 AM PDT by LottieDah
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To: Stravinsky

Is the Pope Chatholic?


44 posted on 07/03/2020 8:04:15 AM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: Stravinsky

It’s right there in the lyrics of Beethoven’s Ninth: Alle Menschen werden Brüder = All men become brothers. Not only was he black, he was trying to turn everyone into one of the brothers. And Beethoven’s unpublished Tenth Symphony is based on my poem Ode to Sarcasm.


45 posted on 07/03/2020 8:04:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (In 2016 Obama ended America's 220 year tradition of peaceful transfer of power after an election.)
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To: dfwgator

Yes. This Beethoven was black thing has been around decades.


46 posted on 07/03/2020 8:05:44 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Stravinsky
The moors were african.

They colonized, enslaved, rape and terrorized Europe for 800 years before Europeans threw them out.

Why is that ignored?

I guess it's racist to bring it up.

47 posted on 07/03/2020 8:07:44 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Stravinsky

are they trying to figure out whether they are going to cancel Whitey Beethoven?

this guy doing some kind of dance style to it

https://twitter.com/KarloInTheEnds/status/1273701819349372928

dont know if the music came later or if he was really dancing to it


48 posted on 07/03/2020 8:10:15 AM PDT by RummyChick (Stop Apologizing for things you didn't do. Stop Demanding Apologies when refuse to forgive)
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To: Stravinsky

"You....got what I need......but you say he just a friend...."

49 posted on 07/03/2020 8:11:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: apillar

Man, from the arguments you laid out, Jonas Kaufmann (probably the most famous operatic tenor at the moment) better watch out. He’s a German like Beethoven, but he also has dark curly hair that he sometimes allows to get bushy, brown eyes, and olive skin. Not just that, he’s sung in the opera Carmen, which has African rhythms! And he starred in “black” composer Beethoven’s only opera, Fidelio! The proof is overwhelming!

Bet he’d be surprised to find out by the criteria of Afro-centric “scholars” he’s a black man. Who knew millions of whites are really blacks!


50 posted on 07/03/2020 8:12:57 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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51 posted on 07/03/2020 8:15:54 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Stravinsky

Black Lies Matter


52 posted on 07/03/2020 8:16:08 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Stravinsky

Jeeeeez! They never learn. This started on 4chan as a joke. Time and time, again, they fall for it. SMH.


53 posted on 07/03/2020 8:17:34 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The Peanuts cartoon I referenced was from over 50 years ago, it’s not new.


54 posted on 07/03/2020 8:18:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ealgeone

“Bohemian Rap City”.


55 posted on 07/03/2020 8:18:27 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: Leaning Right
You just provided me with a perfect opportunity to post something I made a few days ago:


56 posted on 07/03/2020 8:18:55 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If you believe masks work, you also believe Santa Claus ate the Easter Bunny for dinner.)
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To: elcid1970

Pushkin was 1/8 black, 7/8 white. Only one of his 8 great-grandparents was non-European. He was certainly mixed race, but it seems like a stretch to call him black. At least there’s actual legitimate evidence for that claim, though, as there is for Dumas, pere and fils, unlike for Beethoven.


57 posted on 07/03/2020 8:23:09 AM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: Stravinsky
Twitter Debates Race of German Composer

Now that we're all woke, time to roll over Beethoven!

58 posted on 07/03/2020 8:29:37 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Stravinsky

Every time you think these fools have reached the absolute limits of stupidity they prove you wrong.


59 posted on 07/03/2020 8:39:59 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: FenwickBabbitt
Who knew millions of whites are really blacks!

Dennis Hopper?

60 posted on 07/03/2020 8:41:07 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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