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On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare
Environmental Progress ^ | 6-29-2020 | Michael Shellenberger

Posted on 06/29/2020 7:47:02 PM PDT by dynachrome

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To: JimRed
You might appreciate this thread I started: Black Lives Matters Kills People by Bill Whittle

It is based largely on the work of Heather MacDonald from The Wall Street Journal, and her statistical work done back in 2016 illustrate that a police officer of ANY color is 18 (EIGHTEEN!) times more likely to be killed by a black male than a black unarmed male is to be killed at the hands of a police officer.

I trust that work, and the fact that they have not been able to force Heather MacDonald to leave the WSJ for authoring that "heresy" indicates to me it is sound. (Based on the FBI-Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) data)

For me, what was astonishing was, at a maximum, six people out of a hundred in this country are responsible for 46% of the violent crime (defined by the FBI as Homicide, aggravated assault, armed robbery, and rape) and even that number is misleading.

Black men are 6% of the population, and it is said that one third of them have a felony record, so the staggering actual number might be one or two persons out of every hundred are responsible for 46% of violent crime. The other four or five percent of black males are painted unfairly in that terrible light that says one or two out of a hundred is responsible, just because they have the same melanin content in their skin.

One would say (as Bill Whittle opines) that surely that is evidence of racism, that those other four or five percent of the population are unfairly painted, but I see it quite the opposite.

With numbers like that, it is astonishing there isn't more outright police mistreatment of blacks. In my estimation, those numbers reflect a great forbearance in policing in that the numbers of outright mistreatment are small and most encounters with law enforcement do not involve that kind of negative force.

41 posted on 06/30/2020 9:57:10 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel

I think that MacDonald’s interview on FOX might have been where I heard it, but I disremembered the actual figures.


42 posted on 06/30/2020 10:12:47 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rlmorel

I must add that my dealings with blacks have not been any problem. Those I know personally are not that much different from me or my white acquaintances. Guys I play ball with, folks I ran against when I was a semi-serious runner, the neighbors a few houses down the street, people I worked with and worked for (as a real estate agent, handling their buying and selling needs) and I get along fine. But discussions of a racial nature are few and far between; maybe that’s one reason we get along so well.


43 posted on 06/30/2020 10:36:31 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

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44 posted on 06/30/2020 10:40:07 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: JimRed

Yes, that is the thing.

People may accuse me of being racist by pointing out these things (and they will...it is how they roll. It is also why they are so effective in shutting down dissent...being called a racist is about the worst thing there is for an American) but I have two major reasons as a defense against that slander:

First, it is factual data. I am not playing fast and loose with the data (and neither is Heather MacDonald, though they have tarred her with every epithet under the sun) Facts are an absolute defense.

Second, of those six percent of the population that are black men, I readily point out that the 3-5 men who make up that six men out of every 100 US citizens are likely law abiding men who are working trying to make a living, sometimes in difficult places. They are no more criminal than anyone else, but are lumped in due to their skin color. And lumped in, I might add, not by me, but most of the time by the very people who profess to be their allies.


45 posted on 06/30/2020 11:53:53 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel

Oh great... thanks for crushing my dreams.

I had a colonoscopy this morning... that felt better. ;-)


46 posted on 06/30/2020 12:36:03 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Hahahaha...I am an optimist by nature, but that “hope dies last” thing sounds so Soviet I can’t help but reference it.

“In Soviet Russia, you don’t have hope...hope has YOU!”


47 posted on 06/30/2020 12:57:41 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: SunkenCiv

This one’s important... turns out Forbes (owned by the Chinese) dropped the piece hours before it was suppose to be published.

I’ve often thought these expensive hoaxes (ozone hole, peak oil, climate change etc etc) are commie created to get us to throw our money away...


48 posted on 06/30/2020 1:17:59 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat mayors will get your children killed, your stores looted and your city burned.)
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49 posted on 06/30/2020 4:20:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: dynachrome; Olog-hai; Dr. Sivana; datura; cpdiii; A strike; BenLurkin; ConjunctionJunction; ...
A well known climate alarmist flipped... he's sorry for the damage he's done...

Here are some facts few people know: Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”

The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”

Climate change is not making natural disasters worse

Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003

The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska

The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California

Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany, and France since the mid-1970s

Netherlands became rich not poor while adapting to life below sea level

We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter

Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change

Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels

Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture

50 posted on 06/30/2020 9:22:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat mayors will get your children killed, your stores looted and your city burned.)
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To: GOPJ
This ought to send ManBearPig into a raging tizzy.......LOL

"GENTLEMEN! START YOUR CHAR-GRILLERS!"

51 posted on 06/30/2020 9:40:54 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If a really stupid person becomes senile......how can you tell?" - George Carlin)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
I had an upper GI endoscopy Friday morning. I was due for my five year colonoscopy as well, and they said they could do both at once, since I was going to be under and already trussed up like a lab rat. I said, "No. NO. NO NO NO NO, absolutely NOT. After the last one, one end at a time will be sufficient. I'll get back to you on the other one." I wasn't about to sit on the can drinking that orange antifreeze all evening again. LMAO
52 posted on 06/30/2020 9:46:56 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If a really stupid person becomes senile......how can you tell?" - George Carlin)
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To: GOPJ

The lungs of the earth is blue green algae of the oceans. That is where most of the oxygen is made. The Amazon Jungle is most negligible in relationship to oxygen production.


53 posted on 06/30/2020 11:05:17 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, old man, CONSTITUTION WILL DIE FOR)
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To: Viking2002

I did both yesterday, it was VERY easy.

The prep wasn’t that much fun, but it was LOT easier than it was the last time I did it. I had to drink two small bottles of “stuff”, followed by 5 8oz glasses of water or tea. Then nature does the rest. :-)

The actual procedure was a breeze. I went to sleep, and woke up 45 minutes later. I was in and out of the hospital in 2 hours total.


54 posted on 07/01/2020 4:55:28 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: rlmorel
People may accuse me of being racist by pointing out these things (and they will...it is how they roll.

As per part 3 of my tagline, TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.

55 posted on 07/01/2020 8:38:31 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed

Yep. They take that path like ducks to water...


56 posted on 07/01/2020 8:41:09 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"- George Orwell)
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To: JimRed
TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH

Excellent.

57 posted on 07/01/2020 9:21:05 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat mayors get your stores looted, your cities burned, and your cops to stand down.)
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To: GOPJ

TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH

Excellent.

Would look great on a T-shirt...


58 posted on 07/01/2020 9:57:33 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Yeah, my lower required drinking a full gallon of that panther sweat, not a couple condensed shooters and lots of fresh liquid. And you are correct in that it seems like you’re only out in an eyeblink and suddenly you’re in Recovery. I was home an hour later last Friday, munching on a bacon cheeseburger and a cup of chili. *chuckle* And ‘no driving, no alcohol for 24 hours’. Uh-huh. I was at the corner convenience store at 5, getting a 12-pack of Icehouse. LOL


59 posted on 07/01/2020 7:45:25 PM PDT by Viking2002 ("If a really stupid person becomes senile......how can you tell?" - George Carlin)
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To: Viking2002
And ‘no driving, no alcohol for 24 hours

I let my wife drive me home, and I stayed their with my Chic-Fil-A sandwich. But, that evening, I consumed a considerable amount of Kentucky's FINEST Bourbon! :-)

With no ill effect. Well, no more than usual. ;-)

60 posted on 07/02/2020 9:55:56 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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