Posted on 06/21/2020 8:15:20 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel
What do you think about Juneteenth? Consider how suddenly its been foisted upon us.
Seems a reasonable thing to celebrate.
During my USAF career, I was stationed in the south for a total of 14 years. Juneteenth was never a “revered” holiday. It was more like Cinco de Mayo or Mari Gras...just a chance to party.
Yesterday was the first day of Summer
Yup. Republicans will try to own it but they will fail.
REFUSE TO FEED THE BEAST.
if I understand things, democrat slaveowners kept the news of freedom from their slaves until well into June, hence ‘juneteenth’. wonder when this will come out
I grew up in Texas. It’s been celebrated in Texas a long time!
Use the date to highlight the continued existence of slavery trade and human trafficking in the 21st century.
If people are going to denounce slavery, be global about it.
Silence = Violence, so they say
I don't wish to put too fine a point on this but Juneteenth is about freeing the slaves of Democrats in the Confederate States. The freeing of slaves owned by Democrats in the United States would come later; after President Lincoln's death.
Cinco de Mayo has become an informal holiday for all Americans. After all, you don’t need much of an excuse to drink beer. As most people know, it is not Mexican independence day. It’s to celebrate Mexico’s resistance to being recolonized and also our role with the Monroe Doctrine to guarantee the continued independence of all of fellow American Republics.
Similarly, Jackie Robinson Day is an informal holiday for all Americans. On that day, all MLB baseball players wear #2. Not only all MLB American baseball players, but also all MLB international baseball players. This turns the day into a day of triumph not just of a particular group of us, but for all of us. And, furthermore, something that we offer to the entire world. Our founding principle, that all men are created equal.
Regarding Junteenth, I’ve been thinking about that. The Democrats want to use it as part of their 1619 project. In particular, to separate emancipation from Lincoln and the Civil War and treat emancipation as something that came magically to a small group of us. But, what about the end of serfdom in Europe, which came at about the same time? And, what about the Brussels Conference Act of 1890, the culmination of the emancipation movement of the 19th Century bringing an end to (legal) slavery in the entire world?
These are great accomplishments that we achieved not only for ourselves but for the entire world. Our revolution was so revolutionary that it has taken us two centuries to make it real and we are still working on it. At some point, we are going to realize that practically the entire history of the country has been working out the meaning of those words, we hold these truth to be self evident. That’s what our flag represents. What our honored dead sacrificed their lives for. And what we the living strive for. We’re not a country, like other countries, founded on a place or on a race. We are a country founded on an idea.
I agree. I had never heard of Juneteenth until I moved to Texas 35 years ago. It has long been recognized as a celebration in Texas. National holiday? No.
No its not.
If theyre really interested in the declaration, it would be Emancipation Day in September.
This is local day with indecipherable language.
I think it’s fine.
Its my sisters birthday, which makes me extra cringe. May she Rest In Peace, because I sure am not.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with it. It ought to be taught with pride in school and recognized by all Americans for the great achievement it was.
Cinco de Mayo, on the other hand, has no American roots, and is nothing more than a marketing scheme for selling alcohol.
You still do not know.
The date of Lincoln's Proclamation of Emancipation has nothing to with Juneteenth.
So theres kwanza and now this.
Juneteenth is commonly thought of as celebrating the end of slavery in the United States, however, it was still legal and practiced in two Union border states (Delaware and Kentucky) until December 6, 1865, when ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment to the Constitution abolished non-penal slavery nationwide.
So no, I don't see it as pandering at all. I just see it as a date that has deeper meaning for blacks. I certainly have no problem with it. But now it has a meaning for me as well. I have never supported the concept of enslaving people. But back then a percentage of people embraced slavery, while a more significant percentage tolerated its existence. Sadly the Middle East and parts of Africa still practice slavery.
Are they not guilty though of what they claim, that silence is violence. While it may not be racism as such, slavery is slavery, even if it involves enslaving those of your own race. Yet they remain silent about it and focus solely on the fact that whites engaged in it. Every race on the face of this earth has engaged in the unacceptable practice of slavery. No race is innocent.
Just another day. In my mind, every day I awaken is my birthday.
Stevie Ray Vaughn played the festival in 1979
https://30daysout.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/almost-30-years-out-stevie-ray-vaughan-1979/
I DON’T think of it.
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