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Italy: 96% of Coronavirus Fatalities Had Other Chronic Illnesses
Breitbart ^ | 27 May 2020 | THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D.

Posted on 05/27/2020 7:35:43 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Italian health authorities announced in a recent report that only 4.1 percent of fatalities testing positive for Wuhan coronavirus happened in the absence of serious comorbidities, while the average age of the deceased was over 80 years.

The report also revealed an average age of 81 among those who have died with coronavirus in Italy. One of the most astonishing findings of the report was that only 1.1 percent of all coronavirus deaths in the country happened to people below the age of 50, while more than 57 percent were over 80.

The average number of comorbidities among all Italian deaths with the coronavirus was 3.1, ISS revealed. Just 15 percent of fatalities occurred with the presence of just one other serious pathology, while 21.4 percent died with two other pathologies, and 59.6 percent with three or more pathologies.

The most common comorbidities were arterial hypertension (in 68.3 percent of cases), type-2 diabetes (30.1 percent of cases), ischemic heart disease (in 28.2 percent), atrial fibrillation (22.5 percent), chronic renal failure (20.4 percent).

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1 posted on 05/27/2020 7:35:43 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk
Guess the date?!?!?

When will Don Lemon report this story straight up?

2 posted on 05/27/2020 7:37:42 AM PDT by G Larry (The People must shutdown the tyrants.)
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To: Hojczyk
Guess the date?!?!?

When will Don Lemon report this story straight up?

3 posted on 05/27/2020 7:37:42 AM PDT by G Larry (The People must shutdown the tyrants.)
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To: G Larry

if any one of the fear mongers on this board can read this article and actually still say there was ever a reason to lock down then they are hopeless and should go to daily kos


4 posted on 05/27/2020 7:40:54 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

I would ping a couple of them, but this time of the morning they are still busy making more masks out of t-shirts and polishing their goggles so they can stay safe while driving their cars alone.


5 posted on 05/27/2020 8:05:59 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: dp0622
Oh wait, I think I just saw one of them on his way to the pot shop... Hey NoblePotHead over here, we have something to ask you...


6 posted on 05/27/2020 8:16:39 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Hojczyk

Type 2 diabetes goes with obesity. I WISH the truth would get out. And the numbers in the USA are exponentially inflated. And when I say I am happy the numbers aren’t anywhere near the predicted numbers, I am accused of shamelessness for ‘celebrating the dead’. Next time I will respond ‘are you SAD that the numbers aren’t near the predicted amount?’. That MIGHT shut them up.


7 posted on 05/27/2020 8:19:08 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: fireman15

LOL

they’re be here later with lots of “data”.

Why a sniveler would think FR is a good place for them is beyond me


8 posted on 05/27/2020 8:30:39 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/type2-diabetes.html
90% of diabetes does not require insulin and is treated by adjusting diet. So why does it not matter if these people die of Covid? Why does it not matter if someone with high blood pressure dies of Covid? Why do idiots write these articles every day?

” How serious is type 2 diabetes?

Type 2 diabetes is a serious medical condition that often requires the use of anti-diabetic medication, or insulin to keep blood sugar levels under control. However, the development of type 2 diabetes and its side effects (complications) can be prevented if detected and treated at an early stage.

In recent years, it has become apparent that many people with type 2 diabetes are able to reverse diabetes through methods including low-carb diets, very-low-calorie diets and exercise.

For guidance on healthy eating to improve blood glucose levels and weight and to fight back against insulin resistance, join the Low Carb Program “


9 posted on 05/27/2020 10:04:14 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Hojczyk

Most people who die from many illnesses do. That doesn’t mean the illness isn’t what killed them.

The bodies don’t pile up that fast merely by people dying from “chronic illnesses”, nor do 100+ doctors in a single country die each year during any other illness outbreak, morgues being overwhelmed, needing military assistance to handle all of the dead bodies, etc. That doesn’t happen with “chronic illnesses.” People can live many, many years with “chronic illnesses.”

But based on the comments this will provide confirmation bias for their false narrative.


10 posted on 05/27/2020 10:07:14 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: brookwood
90% of diabetes does not require insulin and is treated by adjusting diet. So why does it not matter if these people die of Covid? Why does it not matter if someone with high blood pressure dies of Covid? Why do idiots write these articles every day?

I don't think the author said that it doesn't matter.

The point is that people without pre existing conditions of a certain age should not be locked down.

11 posted on 05/27/2020 10:45:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dp0622
if any one of the fear mongers on this board can read this article and actually still say there was ever a reason to lock down then they are hopeless and should go to daily kos

Well, I don't know about the "fear mongers", but there were quite a few people who just made their observations based on reality - you have not been one of them. Many people have "chronic illnesses" and most of them live many years - even many decades - with them, that died far sooner because of this virus. Those chronic illnesses don't lead to hospitals being overwhelmed that they simply have to leave some people to die, numerous medical staff dying including over 100 doctors, mortuaries being overwhelmed, so many dead bodies they need to call in the military for assistance, etc. All of that happened - and it didn't happen due to "chronic illnesses" - it happened because of COVID19. It's called reality. It's called facts. Sometimes facts and reality are bad - even really bad - that doesn't change the reality that it exists.

12 posted on 05/27/2020 11:00:14 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: brookwood
Why do idiots write these articles every day?

Everybody who has diabetes would have died the last couple of months anyway - don't you know that? Just like anyone with high blood pressure, high cholesterol, ever smoked a cigarette, etc. COVID19 had nothing to do with these death rates. / s

13 posted on 05/27/2020 11:04:26 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

I read about six words of that :-) you’ve got to be kidding. It looks like an editorial for the New York times

A little less wordy next time :-)

take care


14 posted on 05/27/2020 11:14:17 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals N racists dont point ftingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Hojczyk

Interesting.


15 posted on 05/27/2020 1:15:04 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

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16 posted on 05/27/2020 3:53:43 PM PDT by bitt (Much of our culture is intended to traumatize us, as traumatized people are easily controlled)
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To: Republican Wildcat
All of that happened - and it didn't happen due to "chronic illnesses" - it happened because of COVID19.

No, they died because of many reasons, maybe Covid-19 was one of them, but they were old and they died, and that is reality, whether you like it or not.

...numerous medical staff dying including over 100 doctors, mortuaries being overwhelmed...

NONSENSE! There is absolutely no truth to that statement, whatsoever. Indeed, there has NOT been a significant rise in the death rate this year, over the most recent years. Nobody is being overwhelmed. In fact, there were temporary hospitals set up in many places that never received a single Covid-19 patient.


17 posted on 05/27/2020 4:33:26 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: Hojczyk

They did in the U.S. A. too.


18 posted on 05/27/2020 5:08:50 PM PDT by sport
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To: dp0622; fireman15
if any one of the fear mongers on this board can read this article and actually still say there was ever a reason to lock down then they are hopeless and should go to daily kos

Based on the information we had at the time, that being that the very people who developed this biological warfare agent totally freaked out when it was detected outside the confines of the lab that developed it, there was every reason to err on the side of caution.

The prudent thing was to lock down and sort out the actual facts, knowing the people who were withholding the facts shut down a city of 11 million, killed their own economy, welded people into their thousand unit apartment buildings, lied to the rest of the world while sending flights world-wide, but not to anywhere within in China from Wuhan, tried to suck up all the world's PPE, kept the steel mills running in Wuhan as expedient crematoria, while bringing in forty (40!) industrial incinerators to dispose of "medical waste"?

They KNEW, the instant it was detected outside the lab that developed it, just how deadly it was designed to be, that's who!

And in China, it apparently really was that deadly. Some 21 million Chinese disappeared in the first few months.

Fortunately, like a Harbor Freight tool, it quickly lost its edge...

Once we had realistic actual data, i.e. mostly harmless to people under 65, mostly harmless even to them in the absence of co-morbidities that universal lock down ceased to make medical sense, and should have been discontinued.

The blue state governors are frantically keeping the hysteria up because holding your breath until you turn blue beats orange.

It's a political necessity, a literal matter of life and death-by-hanging to traitors, not a medical necessity.

Still think I belong on the Daily KOS?

19 posted on 05/27/2020 5:10:11 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Brown Deer

“NONSENSE! There is absolutely no truth to that statement, whatsoever.”

Of course every single word of what I said was correct - and every single word of what you said is as false as false can be:

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/coronavirus-updates-one-hundred-doctors-die-in-italy-due-to-coronavirus-2209110

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8204903/Italy-reaches-grim-coronavirus-milestone-100th-doctor-dies-disease.html

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/italian-doctors-ask-whos-next-21821264

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/italian-doctors-ask-whos-next-21821264

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11206389/army-coronavirus-ravaged-italy-corpses/

https://worldofbuzz.com/italy-deploys-military-trucks-to-transport-dead-covid-19-patients-as-death-toll-surges-beyond-3000/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8095835/Overwhelmed-Italian-hospitals-running-200-cent-capacity.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-waiting-list-for-funerals-in-italy-coffins-pile-up-2020-3?op=1

https://in.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-italy-idINKBN2161FL

https://www.cknnigeria.com/2020/03/mortuaries-overwhelmed-as-italys-covid.html

Everything I said was based on fact and reality. This information was all widely posted here and we discussed it at the time, but it only takes a moment or two if you somehow missed it all to look up what I said to verify it was all completely accurate. Everything you said you just made up.


20 posted on 05/27/2020 11:41:06 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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