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To: Disestablishmentarian; Steven W.; bitt; little jeremiah
***I think POTUS is talking about vaccines right now to give a psychological life rope to that portion of the population who have been scared to death ... He knows there won't be a vaccine in 8 months; nor does he want one except to get the media to shut up right now***

I hope he knows there will likely never be a vaccine - or more accurately a permanent COVID vaccine. Is there a permanent flu vaccine? The flu vaccine changes every year - AND it is an educated guess. Why?

Because, as I explained a few weeks ago, unlike germs, viruses tend to mutate; some mutate aggressively. They are not a single cell functioning organism like germs. They are complex molecular strings that have life qualities and mimic RNA / DNA strands. COVID-19 is just the latest manifestation of a virus known as 'coronavirus' - named, I presume, for its unique appearance.

I wonder if antibodies aren't the most promising path to trod. Rather than calculate the latest form of the virus, attack it on a broader level; antibodies might attack the generic coronavirus string without having to anticipate individual variations. In the 1918 flu pandemic great success was achieved by tranfusing blood from patients that had recovered from the virus because they contained successful antibodies.

I can't help but suspect that all this talk about vaccines is just a ploy to keep the economy crippled indefinitely.

435 posted on 05/17/2020 8:51:31 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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441 posted on 05/17/2020 9:06:41 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Bob Ireland

Because, as I explained a few weeks ago, unlike germs, viruses tend to mutate; some mutate aggressively.

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Yes indeed, that’s why we “need” a flu vax every year. And actual effectiveness has never been shown with a real study of group who took vax, group who did not, and compare flu infection rates ater. So easy to do, they never do it.

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I can’t help but suspect that all this talk about vaccines is just a ploy to keep the economy crippled indefinitely.

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And do MAIL IN ballots! GRRRR


448 posted on 05/17/2020 9:25:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Bob Ireland; Tobias Grimsley; WildHighlander57; bitt; thinden; little jeremiah; fedupjohn; ...
I think everyone can see that America is opening up again, and the RAT governors and mayors are not going to be able to stop it.

MAY I DIGRESS?
We are passing through a deflationary crisis in our economic system very analogous to the factors which led to the depths of the Great Depression. This is indicated by the historically low interest rates, dangerously low prices on certain commodities and services (e.g., oil), and historically high unemployment. (A major difference this time is that the Fed is not trying to clamp down on money as it did in the 1930s ... leading to some different issues.)

Nevertheless, this is the period of hard-core economic winter in what is sometimes known as the "Longwave" economic cycle (probably now extended to about 72 years).

But this time it will not take a decade or more for the economy to restart.

I think we can feel it now ... the stirrings of economic Spring.

Possibly the China crisis will become WWIII--an asymmetric war--analogous in economic cycle to WWII. But I would point out many people credit WWII with helping to pull the U.S. out of the Great Depression.

Regardless of China, economically we are AT THE CRISIS POINT, and I am certain the President knows this. If the RATS have their way, that decade-long GREAT DEPRESSION II can still occur.

POTUS KNOWS ... and that is why he is trying so hard to coax Americans to STAND UP AGAIN, and STOP LIVING IN FEAR.

Courage.

United States CHINAVIRUS Cases (includes "Recoveries")

Date    	New	 Total  	Linear Model
        	Cases	 Cases  	Since
          	Actual	 Actual  	4/2/2020
3/14/2020		 2,717 	
3/15/2020	 761 	 3,478 	
3/16/2020	 1,167 	 4,645 	
3/17/2020	 1,717 	 6,362 	
3/18/2020	 1,407 	 7,769 	
3/19/2020	 5,911 	 13,680 	
3/20/2020	 5,605 	 19,285 	
3/21/2020	 7,462 	 26,747 	
3/22/2020	 8,478 	 35,225 	
3/23/2020	11,107 	 46,332 	
3/24/2020	 8,816 	 55,148 	
3/25/2020	13,870 	 69,018 	
3/26/2020	16,635 	 85,653 	
3/27/2020	19,363 	 105,016 	
3/28/2020	19,448 	 124,464 	
3/29/2020	17,892 	 142,356 	
3/30/2020	22,003 	 164,359 	
3/31/2020	25,151 	 189,510 	
4/1/2020	27,005 	 216,515 	
4/2/2020	28,698 	 245,213 	 245,213 
4/3/2020	32,740 	 277,953 	 277,216 
4/4/2020	34,123 	 312,076 	 309,219 
4/5/2020	25,544 	 337,620 	 341,222 
4/6/2020	30,576 	 368,196 	 373,225 
4/7/2020	31,916 	 400,112 	 405,228 
4/8/2020	32,020 	 432,132 	 437,231 
4/9/2020	33,618 	 465,750 	 469,234 
4/10/2020	35,551 	 501,301 	 501,237 
4/11/2020	31,942 	 533,243 	 533,240 
4/12/2020	27,289 	 560,532 	 565,243 
4/13/2020	26,623 	 587,155 	 597,246 
4/14/2020	26,937 	 614,092 	 629,249 
4/15/2020	30,468 	 644,560 	 661,252 
4/16/2020	35,221 	 679,781 	 693,255 
4/17/2020	30,550 	 710,331 	 725,258 
4/18/2020	29,521 	 739,852 	 757,261 
4/19/2020	24,413 	 764,265 	 789,264 
4/20/2020	28,648 	 792,913 	 821,267 
4/21/2020	32,128 	 825,041 	 853,270 
4/22/2020	24,051 	 849,092 	 885,273 
4/23/2020	37,617 	 886,709 	 917,276 
4/24/2020	38,329 	 925,038 	 949,279 
4/25/2020	35,858 	 960,896 	 981,282 
4/26/2020	26,426 	 987,322 	 1,013,285 
4/27/2020	23,185 	 1,010,507 	 1,045,288 
4/28/2020	25,258 	 1,035,765 	 1,077,291 
4/29/2020	28,807 	 1,064,572 	 1,109,294 
4/30/2020	30,638 	 1,095,210 	 1,141,297 
5/1/2020	36,242 	 1,131,452 	 1,173,300 
5/2/2020	29,312 	 1,160,764 	 1,205,303 
5/3/2020	27,358 	 1,188,122 	 1,237,306 
5/4/2020	24,778 	 1,212,900 	 1,269,309 
5/5/2020	24,763 	 1,237,663 	 1,301,312 
5/6/2020	25,520 	 1,263,183 	 1,333,315 
5/7/2020	29,440 	 1,292,623 	 1,365,318 
5/8/2020	29,162 	 1,321,785 	 1,397,321 
5/9/2020	25,524 	 1,347,309 	 1,429,324 
5/10/2020	20,329 	 1,367,638 	 1,461,327 
5/11/2020	18,196 	 1,385,834 	 1,493,330 
5/12/2020	22,802 	 1,408,636 	 1,525,333 
5/13/2020	21,712 	 1,430,348 	 1,557,336 
5/14/2020	27,245 	 1,457,593 	 1,589,339 
5/15/2020	26,692 	 1,484,285 	 1,621,342 
5/16/2020	23,488 	 1,507,773 	 1,653,345 
5/17/2020	19,891 	 1,527,664 	 1,685,348 
5/18/2020		 .      	 1,717,351 
5/19/2020		 .       	 1,749,354 
5/20/2020		 .        	 1,781,357 
5/21/2020		 .       	 1,813,360 
5/22/2020		 .        	 1,845,363 
5/23/2020		 .        	 1,877,366 
5/24/2020		 .          	 1,909,369 
5/25/2020		 .        	 1,941,372 
5/26/2020		 .         	 1,973,375 
5/27/2020		 .         	 2,005,378 

471 posted on 05/17/2020 10:07:05 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian ("the right of the people peaceably to assemble")
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To: Bob Ireland

“complex molecular strings that have life qualities”

I’ve heard it said you can’t really say a virus is alive, but you can’t really say it’s not alive either.

Like I heard someone tell his young son about cheez whiz, you can’t really say its cheese but you can’t really say it’s NOT cheese either.


632 posted on 05/18/2020 8:31:34 AM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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