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Dr.Judy Mikovits says that annual influenza vaccines made people more susceptible to CoVid-19 virus attack - Let's Inventigate
NY Times ^ | May 10, 2020 | Ralph Mitchell

Posted on 05/10/2020 6:47:54 AM PDT by mitchell001

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To: mitchell001

I can say this about her claims of the flu vaccine producing susceptibility to the Wuhan Virus.

1. I am in the “susceptible” age group, with some hypertension. I have never had the flu vaccine and never had a severe flu illness, never. I have relatives who take the flu vaccine religiously every year, and every year have a major URI flu related illness.

2. The “elderly”, with tons of public and medical encouragement are among the groups with high rates of getting the flu vaccine every year. Healthy working age younger folks (18 to 49) are not as likely as the elderly to get the flu vaccine.

3. We know the age groups considered the most susceptible to the Wuhan Virus.

Of course, correlation is not causation, but it does at a minimum point to a need to investigate the relationship to determine if it shows a cause or is just incidental.


21 posted on 05/10/2020 7:06:30 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: allendale

flu vaccine doesn’t even work on most strains of flu, I don’t see how it would help with this. My nurse wife could tell me exactly what percentage of strains it works on, but it’s in the neighborhood of 20. Neither of us has ever had one, I have missed one day of work in 18 years.


22 posted on 05/10/2020 7:10:58 AM PDT by allwrong57
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To: mitchell001

Never in the history of mankind has a greater volume of bulshit been thrown in every possible direction as with this covid-19. This is fully the equivalent of the 21st Century Salem witch trials.


23 posted on 05/10/2020 7:14:01 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Wuli

Heart surgeon told me in 1992 that he couldn’t recommend flu shot, and had never had one himself. I went with it and so did my wife. 28y and never had flu...and we’re old and told to stay inside. Hah!


24 posted on 05/10/2020 7:15:52 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Yes, I CAN take a joke /s)
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To: All
She found that retroviruses were being put into vaccines.

Imagine that.

I guess the aluminum and mercury just didn't have the right kick they needed so they added that too.

Look What I found...

Judges in India's Supreme Court have demanded answers after children died during a controversial cervical cancer vaccine trial.
Young tribal girls received shots of pharmaceutical company Merck's Gardasil vaccine and Cervarix, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline.
25 posted on 05/10/2020 7:16:38 AM PDT by ssfromla
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To: mitchell001

I keep hearing that what kills people with the CV is an exaggerated immune response. If true, the idea that annual flu shots could drive up mortality from the CV does not seem impossible. Repeated flu vaccinations would presumably heighten your immune response.


26 posted on 05/10/2020 7:25:04 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: allwrong57

When the yearly vaccine is developed, it is always a crap shoot. The virologists, based on their science and experience, try to determine what unique antigens the new season’s virus will feature and then try to design a vaccine that will take aim at those antigens and stop the virus. Sometimes the new vaccine is not as effective as the scientists hoped . Clinically when that happens as in 2018-2019 people who received the vaccine still got sick but the observation was that they as a group were not as severely ill and did not have the same death rate as people who were not vaccinated. So most physicians continued to recommend its administration. There are of course people who are genetically endowed with the capability to resist influenza vaccine as there are people who have the inherent genes to resist COVID-19. There is still much to learn. IMHO you just might have a bit of cross immunity to COVID-19 if you received yearly flu vaccines for the past 15 years.


27 posted on 05/10/2020 7:25:43 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: mitchell001
"...Let's Inventigate"

Word of the day: Inventigate

28 posted on 05/10/2020 7:26:37 AM PDT by Egon
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To: mitchell001

you can find her videos on ugetube.com (utah gun exchange). videos do not get removed here (patriots)


29 posted on 05/10/2020 7:26:41 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: DannyTN

you’re a total poser here at FR. constantly touting the libtard mantra. go the f away


30 posted on 05/10/2020 7:28:19 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Wuli

The only time I ever had flu-like symptoms was after I received a flu shot while in the service in 1968. This was one of the first flu vaccines developed and servicemen were the Guinea pigs. It led to dozens, if not hundreds, of deaths. These vaccines may confer partial immunity to a specific virus, but weaken the immune system overall and lead to allergies to things like eggs and nuts.
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31 posted on 05/10/2020 7:31:40 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: ssfromla

and 500k children in India GOT polio from Gates’ vaccine program.

Wickedness is afoot.


32 posted on 05/10/2020 7:31:45 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: mitchell001

If Dr.Judy Mikovits is correct then I am in the clear. I have never gotten a flu vaccination. Last time I got any vaccinations was as a child.


33 posted on 05/10/2020 7:35:19 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: sanjuanbob

I think was has never been done is enough genetic studies on folks like us that have never had a serious flu illness.

I do know they found individuals who do not get HIV in spite of being very exposed to it - in one case intentionally. In those cases they think they found genetic markers from ancestors who were survivors or the plagues. Of course since so many millions died of the plague the common assumption is everyone infected died. But that wasn’t the case. Not everyone infected was killed. So some peoples’ immune systems mounted a defense and survived the infection. Many generations later, up to today, some of the genetic variants for their immune system response can still exist in some folks.


34 posted on 05/10/2020 7:41:10 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: dennisw

If I recall you correctly, you too are an advocate of iodine consumption, correct? If so, be assured that iodine PROTECTS you from viruses. Don’t stop taking it :)


35 posted on 05/10/2020 7:43:39 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: attiladhun2

“The only time I ever had flu-like symptoms was after I received a flu shot while in the service in 1968. This was one of the first flu vaccines developed and servicemen were the Guinea pigs. It led to dozens, if not hundreds, of deaths.”

I have had forgotten that incident with myself, also in 1968. I spent a week of basic training at Ft Leonard Wood in the hospital there - worst fever, cough and sore throat of my life, and never again. I have never remembered it as “flu” and at the time made no association between the illness and the vaccines they had given us.

I don’t remember how many beds were in the ward, which was an open ward with two rows of beds. None were empty and all of us were sick with the same symptoms.


36 posted on 05/10/2020 7:50:28 AM PDT by Wuli
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Could Retroviruses Play a Role in COVID-19?

From the article:

Judy Mikovits, Ph.D. is a cellular and molecular biologist,1 researcher and was the founding research director of the Whittemore Peterson Institute that researches and treats chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in Reno, Nevada.

She is likely one of the most qualified scientists in the world to comment on this disease because of her groundbreaking research in molecular biology and virology. Mikovits is absolutely brilliant, but like many gifted researchers, her complex discussions on science quite challenging for the average lay person to follow.

...continue reading at Dr. Mercola's mercola.com

37 posted on 05/10/2020 7:56:30 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Wuli

You’re lucky. I was hacking up green crap, woozy, and feverish (for about a month, mind you), yet when I tried to go on sick call I was told, “Beat it. You ain’t sick.”


38 posted on 05/10/2020 7:59:04 AM PDT by attiladhun2
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To: Egon

gmta


39 posted on 05/10/2020 7:59:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mitchell001
I've had a flu vaccine a couple of times over the years and don't know if it really helped since the years I didn't get one I never got the flu either.

In fact, I survived the 2017-18 epidemic without getting sick and never even knowing an epidemic was going on.

With that being said, I have a black friend who stopped getting vaccinated because he said every time he did, he would get sick..........

So what does that prove? Nothing other than the fact that some people are going to get the Covid 19, and for whatever reason others won't.......98% who do will survive and 85% who do will have only mild symptoms or none at all.......

As an addendum, I've been out and about and in and out of big stores constantly without benefit of a mask or gloves and still haven't gotten sick....So I'm pretty confident that I won't and not the least bit worried if I do.

40 posted on 05/10/2020 8:24:13 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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