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To: Grimmy
How much, if any, of that changes when the entire country is in a State of Emergency? All 50 states by independent declaration of each of their governors?

As regards the military use in law enforcement, I don't think it changes anything. But, I'm not a JAG and hate lawyers especially when I don't need one.

Congress can authorize such an action, but won't here. With enough unrest, the President can declare martial law. That would suck but it would suck more for the DS perps. Tough to envision in an election year.

This from Wiki is kinda interesting:

The 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act allows the government to freeze assets, limit trade and confiscate property in response to an "unusual and extraordinary threat" to the United States that originates substantially outside of it. As of 2015 more than twenty emergencies under the IEEPA remain active regarding various subjects, the oldest of which was declared in 1979 with regard to the government of Iran. Another ongoing national emergency, declared after the September 11 attacks, authorizes the president to retain or reactivate military personnel beyond their normal term of service.[113]

'substantially outside', could mean 'look out coup plotters' after the Covid. You could make the case the transnational 'families' are substantially outside the US so they and their 'local' cohorts could be at risk.

1,382 posted on 04/30/2020 10:46:24 PM PDT by xone
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To: All; BradyLS
More from Flubro Brady LS from beyond the trees.

Flubros and FReeQs are cousins (mostly)

Brady LS http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3840351/posts?page=233#233

What may also yield dividends is something like a speech or a press release (or several) that we know Obama has marked up to compare against the annotations in the Flynn documents. That might reveal more similarities.

How punctuation is used is also important. Check out the position and stroke of the periods and commas relative to the letters they appear after. They look similar to me. Looks like a felt tip or or ball point pen with a good, even flow of ink was used in the personal note. A cheap pen or perhaps a pencil may have been used in the referenced annotations.


1,383 posted on 04/30/2020 10:53:35 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: xone; Grimmy

I’ve posted this before but would like others’ viewpoints on this. Not that I think POTUS would do all of these such as take privately held gold.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/presidents-emergency-powers?rebelltitem=2#rebelltitem2

6 insane things the President can do during a crisis

1. Regulate all commerce and business transactions.
Under the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917, the president is allowed to regulate all the finances of the United States, including all international transactions.

2. Seize all privately-held gold stores.
Under the same 1917 act of Congress, the president has the authority to take all privately owned gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates. The last time this was used was in 1933 to mitigate the effects of the Great Depression. Citizens were allowed to keep only $100 worth of gold.

Citizens were paid its value per ounce and for the cost of transportation as they were required to surrender the gold to a Federal Reserve Bank within three days of the order.

3. Take control of all media in the US.
Under the Communications Act of 1934, the president can establish the Office of Telecommunications Management, which oversees all media and telecommunications, regardless of advances in technology.

President Kennedy did this through Executive Order 10995 in 1962.

4. Basically capture all resources and manpower.
Kennedy also signed executive orders allowing for the seizure of electric power fuels and minerals, roads, highways, ports, sea lanes, waterways, railroads, and the private vehicles on those throughways.

Under further orders, he allowed for the Executive Office of the President to conscript citizens as laborers, seize health and education facilities, and airports and aircraft. These are continued in Executive Orders 10997, 10999, 11000, 11001, 11002, 11003, 11004, and 11005.

5. Deploy the military inside the United States.
While American governors can offer their National Guard resources to the president without being ordered, as they do in the case of US troops monitoring the border with Mexico, the use of Active Duty troops inside the US is forbidden under the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 ... unless there’s an emergency.

The Insurrection Act allows for the president to use troops to put down insurrections or rebellions within the United States.

After Hurricane Katrina, however, the Insurrection Act was amended to allow the POTUS to use federal troops to enforce the law — a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act. Every US governor was against this change.

6. Suspend the government of the United States.
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President Donald Trump takes the oath of office from Chief Justice John Roberts on Capitol Hill in Washington, Jan. 27, 2017. Pool/Jim Bourg via Associated Press
A presidential directive signed by George W. Bush on May 9, 2007, gives the president of the United States the authority to take over all government functions and all private sector activities in the event of a “catastrophic emergency.”

The idea is to ensure American democracy survives after such an event occurs and that we will come out the other end with an “enduring constitutional government.” This piece of legislation is called “Directive 51.”


1,497 posted on 05/01/2020 6:55:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: xone; Grimmy; ransomnote; little jeremiah; bitt; bagster

I’m so far behind the last few days I sense if I ask my question it will already be answered but, on this Posse comitatus:

Xone: “As regards the military use in law enforcement, I don’t think it changes anything. But, I’m not a JAG and hate lawyers especially when I don’t need one.”

Grimmy addressed this too in a previous post and LJ keeps asking a lot of my questions.

My one of big questions is, if reserves are called into action isn’t it possible this is to prepare for attacks from NATO or other DS govts *claiming* to keep peace or prevent a coup in the US?

Am I being too much of an alarmist? Seeing boogie men beyond the trees? I’m just thinking perhaps its a move of wise preparation, or perhaps a move to discourage any enemy DS force from thinkin’ about this. Y’all got opinions on this?

And for that purpose AD military in the US is not posse comitatus as I understand it.


1,709 posted on 05/01/2020 11:25:05 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Weaponize your cell phone! Call your legislators every week.)
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