Posted on 04/26/2020 2:34:06 AM PDT by tired&retired
Doctors sound alarm about patients in their 30s and 40s left debilitated or dead. Some didn’t even know they were infected.
The man was among several recent stroke patients in their 30s to 40s who were all infected with the coronavirus. The median age for that type of severe stroke is 74.
As Oxley, an interventional neurologist, began the procedure to remove the clot, he observed something he had never seen before. On the monitors, the brain typically shows up as a tangle of black squiggles — “like a can of spaghetti,” he said — that provide a map of blood vessels. A clot shows up as a blank spot. As he used a needlelike device to pull out the clot, he saw new clots forming in real-time around it.
“This is crazy,” he remembers telling his boss.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Interesting. I saw an interfering substance in blood bank too. I chalk it up to the liver damage causing abnormal proteins or side effects from the bacterial sepsis setting in.
Where did you read that?
people with covid are more susceptible to clot. theoretically this could lead to stroke. I work in a major stroke center. All I can say is testing unusual strikes for covid we have not found any. Yes it may be a complication if covid infection but it is rare not common
Doesn’t sound to me like people are getting enough time to get secondary infection in most cases. “...die within hours...” is what I’ve seen. We do hear about people being discharged after a week or two in ICU but we also see people “celebrating” when it happens. People don’t “celebrate” common events.
and it’s not unprecedented. More breathless garbage
I wonder how often blood clots occur. Is it very rare or is it common enough to make you wonder if otherwise healthy people should seek treatment at the earliest possible stage of covid? Something to keep in mind if you are considering riding it out. Could you be treated prophylactically with anticoagulants?
From the protocol that was linked here today:
“Full anticoagulation: Unless contraindicated we suggest FULL anticoagulation (on
admission to the ICU) with enoxaparin, i.e 1 mg kg s/c q 12 hourly (dose adjust with
Cr Cl < 30mls/min). Heparin is suggested with CrCl < 15 ml/min. Alternative approach:
Half-dose rTPA: 25mg of tPA over 2 hours followed by a 25mg tPA infusion administered
over the subsequent 22 hours, with a dose not to exceed 0.9 mg/kg followed by full
anticoagulation. On transfer to floor, consider reducing enoxaparin to 40-60 mg /day.
Note: Early termination of ascorbic acid and corticosteroids will likely result in a rebound
effect.”
No need to reply, I found a couple of articles on it
I had a stroke when I was 31.
This is silly.
Did you have Kung-Flu?
So would all these strange symptoms be more likely in an engineered virus?
And maybe some of the people talking about things being worse in the fall, are thinking about mutations?
But look at the “strokes” you are used to. Hypetensive hemorrhages, aneurysms, arteteriolar subhyaloid necrosis and thalamic micro infarcts. Even heart valves aren’t gonna throw the kinds of clot this virus probably can.
Consciousness is, as you are aware, a “global” phenomenon of the brain, widespread, diffuse insults are well known to be relatively “silent” until a certain “threshold” is past. Once upon a time I spent 6 months with a Neuropathologist looking at slide after slide of the brain and all it’s diseases. It’s like hunting an animal, you spend months studying it you get to know it’s habits.
I spent many months creating an animal model of the Rat brain to study just these kinds of micro embolic phenomenon many years ago. What we were interested in wasn’t the infarcts so much but we were trying to produce as many insults to the blood brain barrier as we could think of and this one was a hard one to model.
Not engineered but manipulated. There’s a difference.
Dr Groothius’ lab was the lab I worked in on Rat Microemboli. He was prolific and Molinar was his main collaborator. They had a digitized system of analyzing the blood brain barrier that was pure genius for it’s time. Their papers are HIGHLY technical but if you can understand them their brilliance shines through. We were just throwing every pathological insult to the BBB we could come up with to see if we could find different ways it could be manipulated.
The fda now allows a single target pos to ;) confirm a covid. They may not be true Covid. I am concerned about the dic. First gen chloroquine was famous for hemolytic anemia’s in some folks. It almost looked like rhabdo, from a diagnostic perspective, so fast.
We have a blood supply problem already.
The at risk ones don’t make it long. But then again, after hitting the 90s what should be expected.
Is it age that produced the demographics we see or “returning infected old folks to their nursing home”? Seems to me the latter might just be at least a part of it.
There are some reknowned scientists who think the virus was manipulated though “not for malicious intent.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11462934/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-russia-microbiologist-claims/
Rural area demographics may skew the data in my case, as the population is older to start with. The spread is slow without green transportation. Nursing homes stopped taking them back.
Single target positives are problematic on many levels.
I’ve seen those, if you search Coronavirus and “Gain of Function” all kinds of stuff pops up. Which sort of leads to my conjecture about a “rapid shedding of lethality”. You can look through 50 years of Weekly “Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Reports” at the CDC website if you like, it’s all available in pdf form. “Normal” Coronavirus can’t cause significant human outbreaks. It simply never happens. A spurious case here and there is about it. If you read the theoretical underpinnings of “Gain of Function” this is the reason they selected Coronavirus instead of say “measles”.
We see one-off cases that we can’t explain with every virus.
Those words came out of the mouth of the vaunted Dr. Anthony Fauci.
That makes sense!
Also, there have been the strange reports of lower than average incidence of Covid19 illness among smokers. This might be related to nicotine’s retardation of the clot-formation property of thrombin.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1137933
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