Posted on 04/16/2020 8:03:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WN8RP7Bz6Q
Is this the bridge for sale?
The length of time before medication smelled fishy. Thanks for the evaluation.
Yes, we’ll do our OWN research thank you. China has ‘helped’ us quite enough already!
That, and they forgot to mention they were harvesting organs from the Covid patients to make a little money on the side....
The analysis that I saw was the HCQ plus zinc and zpac, and started early. The HCQ is thought to assist zinc to enter and fight the virus.
Not interested in studies that only use half of the treatment started too late—just those that the various docs have reported helpful.
Also the actual symptoms such as being able to breathe better are certainly positives—and not necessarily related to viral load.
JMO—HCQ is generic and not likely to make any PHARMA big bucks, so I don’t expect a lot of researchers to give the cheap solution a fair shake.
I wonder why they didn’t compare it to the one the French doctor did that worked extremely well? Hmmm....
A couple of points:
1. They needed zinc. It doesnt look like they used it. Big mistake if so.
2. My favorite theory of how HCQ works is that it protects red blood cells from being depleted of oxygen. So the patient recovers. There is no reason to expect a reduction in viral load. The medication doesnt directly attack the virus.
3. The only really worrisome comment was about no visible difference in the apparent health of both groups. But the zinc could explain that.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.10.20060558v1
A significant efficacy of HCQ on alleviating symptoms was observed when the confounding effects of anti-viral agents were removed in the post-hoc analysis (Hazard ratio, 8.83, 95%CI, 1.09 to 71.3)
This was further supported by a significantly greater reduction of CRP (6.986 in SOC plus HCQ versus 2.723 in SOC, milligram/liter, P=0.045) conferred by the addition of HCQ, which also led to more rapid recovery of lymphopenia, albeit no statistical significance.
Conclusions The administration of HCQ did not result in a higher negative conversion rate but more alleviation of clinical symptoms than SOC alone in patients hospitalized with COVID-19 without receiving antiviral treatment, possibly through anti-inflammatory effects. Adverse events were significantly increased in HCQ recipients but no apparently increase of serious adverse events.
Hey, that was just the thata way one. The thisa way one is better. We fixed the thata way one with some duct tape. Trust me I tell ya no lie sailor.
> The study has major limitations, for example:...
Other major limitation:
The study is from CHINA.
China lies.
Zinc + Azithromycin?
I thought the recipe that works is “HCQ + Z-pak + Zinc”.
They didnt use it in combination with a Z Pak and zinc
Regarding your point 3, the late administration of the HCQ medicine (16-17 days after the display of the initial symptoms), was probably the main factor in the failure - but yes, not providing zinc did not help.
However, once you get to the point of organ failure (which they probably were at, or very near, after suffering through this disease for over two weeks), not much is going to work, unless God intervenes.
That’s going...Viral.
Seek and find always posting anti Trump communist BS
I read the study. It’s flawed, for sure. That said, it is likely that chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine will not prove to be a panacea. There are biological reasons why it might be effective, but it is unlikely to be the magic bullet that gets us past all of this. We should manage expectations.
Same could be said for Chemotherapy, yet nobody is calling to stop the use of it.
Depending upon the chemotherapy, you're absolutely right. I'm not calling for stopping the use of hydroxychloroquine/chloroquine, and I would most definitely treat Covid patients with it. That said, like most therapies for potentially lethal diseases, I do not expect it to be a miraculous cure. I hope it is, but it is unlikely to be.
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