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1 posted on 04/01/2020 8:44:52 AM PDT by GulfMan
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FT Analysis of Worldwide Covid-19 Stats


2 posted on 04/01/2020 8:46:06 AM PDT by nwrep
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I have an acquaintance that looked to be going beyond the brink with Covid-19, barely able to breathe, whose symptoms promptly reversed when the doctor prescribed some sort of “drug cocktail”. Not sure what that cocktail was, but I suspect it might have been the one being touted lately. Anecdotal evidence, I know.


5 posted on 04/01/2020 8:50:46 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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“Thoughts?”

You are bored.


6 posted on 04/01/2020 8:51:23 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Ping


8 posted on 04/01/2020 8:52:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: GulfMan

Take a deep breath
We are using it.
I know for a fact


10 posted on 04/01/2020 8:58:51 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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“I guess it’s just not working and Trump knows it, otherwise why the 100k low range for deaths. “

That is not low range. Low range would be the other 48 not having curves like NY and NJ.


11 posted on 04/01/2020 8:59:38 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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My wife is a pharmacist at a hospital. She says they are giving it to CV patients who are admitted. And they admitted a LOT of patients with CV from a nursing home in Gallatin, TN.


18 posted on 04/01/2020 9:16:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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I am as a prophylactic and so is my asthma 19 year old son

Before I get lectured

I actually survived the old more dangerous drug in Sierra Leone and The Congo many years ago

And Belize for Dengue...back before Belize became so cool


20 posted on 04/01/2020 9:19:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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Where is a copy of the email that has been sent to all hospitals that outline the treatment with HC? It doesn't exist, there is no coordinated effort to stem this tide using HC.

Here is the letter the CDC has posted on their website on therapeutic interventions for Covid-19.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html

It includes the following on HCQ:

ased upon limited in-vitro and anecdotal data, chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine are currently recommended for treatment of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in several countries. Both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have known safety profiles with the main concerns being cardiotoxicity (prolonged QT syndrome) with prolonged use in patients with hepatic or renal dysfunction and immunosuppression but have been reportedly well-tolerated in COVID-19 patients. Due to higher in-vitro activity against SARS-CoV-2 and its wider availability in the United States compared with chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine has been administered to hospitalized COVID-19 patients on an uncontrolled basis in multiple countries, including in the United States.

One small study reported that hydroxychloroquine alone or in combination with azithromycin reduced detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA in upper respiratory tract specimens compared with a non-randomized control group but did not assess clinical benefit

28 posted on 04/01/2020 9:32:05 AM PDT by nwrep
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I’ll attempt to get this thread back on track.

I’ve been wondering the same thing. Trump announced this on March 20, twelve days ago. Why wasn’t this tested SOMEWHERE immediately? There’s been no study I’ve heard of anywhere in the world that attempts to replicate the results. Is the entire worldwide medical profession so “smart” they’re all a bunch of idiots?

I’m also amazed that the corrupt, lying, deceiving fake media continue in their ways even in this. The headlines and articles are only about hydroxychloroquine and maybe AZ/zPack (same thing), implying that’s the whole cure when it’s not. Even Trump didn’t mention zinc. The only article I read including zinc was about how Snopes said this cure was “unproven”, which appears to be the case.

Rudy Giuliani had the inventor of the “cocktail” on his Common Sense video 3 days ago. Is it a scam? The guy has some other condition that requires isolation. Is it anti-semitism? The guy is Jewish and created this in a Jewish community.

Is big pharma suppressing the cure? The 5-day treatment costs $20. Twenty bucks!

Why did it take the FDA 10 days to approve the use of a substance that was already approved?

Why are governors banning its use, potentially sentencing the sick to death?

We deserve THE TRUTH. If this doesn’t work, then move on. Until then it should have already been widely used and tested.

Right now America is held hostage to a virus and fear of death. This could be the #1 thing that opens the door, at least allowing some, if not many or even most, to return to productive work.

30 posted on 04/01/2020 9:39:20 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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From Cuomo’s EO:

No pharmacist shall dispense hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine except when written as prescribed for an FDA-approved indication; or as part of a state approved clinical trial related to COVID-19 for a patient who has tested positive for COVID-19, with such test result documented as part of the prescription. No other experimental or prophylactic use shall be permitted, and any permitted prescription is limited to one fourteen day prescription with no refills.


35 posted on 04/01/2020 9:55:47 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.for corruptiion)
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Trump said yesterday that 1100 people in New York are being treated with Chloroquine, if Cuomo stopped this this then he (or someone) is lying to Trump


37 posted on 04/01/2020 10:05:26 AM PDT by oil_dude
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"Using it only on the sickest patients." When the efficacy of HCQ is based on preventing the progression to the cytokine storm which destroys the lungs through inflammation.

So they're going to wait until the lungs ARE fully inflamed, and THEN use the HCQ? Proving:


39 posted on 04/01/2020 10:13:08 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." - George Orwell)
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[[Are Medical Doctors Failing us in our Hour of Need?]]

Yes, next question?

[[Nearly 1,000 died in the US yesterday]]

While doctors and governors etc fart around waiting for their nice neat little clinical trials that will take a year or more to complete-

[[this is an important option but there may be other options that are better to address the issue.”]]

So we wait a year and half for other options to be FDA approved?

[[Finally, the doctor states “only the sickest patients are receiving the treatment” when the literature surrounding it’s use states it should be started at the very first sign of respiratory symptoms. ]]

EXACTLY- the ‘powers that be’ Are farting around with people’s lives- 1000’s of families are now minus their loved ones because we aren’t using EVERY option available NOW- And the public seems to be just ho hum about it all- Why? Because they personally aren’t affected-

You can bet whenever the ‘powers that be’, or their family members or their personal friends get the virus, the first thing they get is Hydroxychloroquine- while we, Joe Q public, has to be told there isn’t enough medicine, there isn’t enough research into the medicine-

1000’s are dying unnecessarily- and it’s the states government’s fault- those that are denying the use of Hydroxychloroquine or severely restricting it’s use-

Will there be more effective drugs? Perhaps- but we have to use what is available NOW- it is immoral to delay this any further given the reams of anecdotal studies and clinical trials that are and have been done already- showing very effective results-


44 posted on 04/01/2020 10:50:50 AM PDT by Bob434
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