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Corona Virus Daily Thread #33

Posted on 03/31/2020 9:38:35 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3829893/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: china; chinavirus; livethread; masks; wuhanflu
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To: RightGeek

“Herd Immunity” might not be all it’s cracked up to be when dealing with coronaviruses. Looking at a similar virus, MERS-COV, 7 of 9 of survivors evaluated had no antibody response at 18 months. The 2 of 9 that did have a response at 18 months were the severe cases (severe pneumonia).

MERS-COV study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4880093/

The coronaviruses that cause the common cold do not infer immunity, and in studies, “human volunteers who agreed to be experimentally inoculated with a seasonal coronavirus showed that even people with preexisting antibodies could still get infected and have symptoms”.

SARS-COV on the other hand, seems to produce a much more persistent immune response.

I’m sure every person in this country, barring population control advocates and politically motivated democrats, hope SARS-COV2 infection infers immunity, and that as few people as possible die of this disease. But I don’t believe there has ever been a case of “Herd Immunity” with a coronavirus. At this point, I don’t think we know enough about SARS-COV2 to make a major public health decision to allow it to spread through the population. In fact, it would be an act of desperation that could leave us right where we started, but with a severely degraded healthcare system and hundreds of thousands dead.


201 posted on 03/31/2020 3:00:12 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: cgbg

Captain wants just a skeletal crew of 10 % to keep reactor operational and sanitize the ship. Guam doesn’t want to cough up a hotel.


202 posted on 03/31/2020 3:01:12 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: amorphous

My guess is that is God really wanted our nation to go under, some idiot would have burned down Franklin Graham’s field hospital in Central Park by now.


203 posted on 03/31/2020 3:01:24 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: justa-hairyape

Won’t all those sailors tip the island over?


204 posted on 03/31/2020 3:01:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RightGeek

L.A. Bureaucrats Shut Down Restaurants for Selling Groceries Without a Permit https://reason.com/2020/03/31/los-angeles-bureaucrats-barbara-ferrer-shut-down-restaurants-for-selling-groceries-without-a-permit/


205 posted on 03/31/2020 3:03:00 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: amorphous

I would personally suggest that she take the cannulu, since lower oxygen levels can cause organ damage. Can’t blame her for avoiding the respirator; apparently your chances on a respirator with this crap are not good. I hope she gets better soon.


206 posted on 03/31/2020 3:03:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: DLfromthedesert

what local businesses do you speak of that you’re jonesing for, that you cannot get their product mailed/delivered to you? Or is it the social contact you’re missing?


207 posted on 03/31/2020 3:04:45 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: amorphous

Thanks.

I haven’t listened, to the link, but the 30 days seem to be confirming what POTUS’ task team just said, as well.


208 posted on 03/31/2020 3:05:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: BusterDog
So Cuomo, the CNN anchor, little brother of the Governor is Covid-19 positive. And he is going to continue to do his show at night from his basement . . . . .

He was sick, he was tested, he was positive. Nevertheless, he persisted . . .

209 posted on 03/31/2020 3:05:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: BusterDog

Sorta like some HIV+ gay men flaunting it by riding bareback, eh?


210 posted on 03/31/2020 3:06:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: ETCM

There are a few US soldiers in Korea that tested positive again. Couple weeks after testing cured. Then you have to consider immunity for strains ?


211 posted on 03/31/2020 3:07:10 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: RaceBannon

Ha! I’m shocked....NOT.


212 posted on 03/31/2020 3:07:10 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: dfwgator

Not if they social distance properly. That should stabilize the island and prevent tipping.


213 posted on 03/31/2020 3:08:46 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape; Black Agnes; All

I’d like to see the rate of reinfection rates/comparison between patients who contracted, and recovered, then were reinfected....vs....patients who contracted, and were giving the HCQ/Zyth regimen.

I thougt I’d read something that there were NO traces of the disease found, days later, in the tests ran on those who had the HCQ protocol.


214 posted on 03/31/2020 3:10:35 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

He should not be talking much at all if he is sick. You expel significant water droplets when just talking.


215 posted on 03/31/2020 3:10:53 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/


216 posted on 03/31/2020 3:11:24 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: BenLurkin
The second Mrs. Lurkin texted a pic of coyote strolling down the streets in her trailer park.

Shoot 'em. Skin 'em. Disembowel 'em. Cook 'em. Eat 'em.

217 posted on 03/31/2020 3:11:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: justa-hairyape

I wonder if the Captain will get a hotel if he threatens to flip Guam over?


218 posted on 03/31/2020 3:13:38 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Jane Long

It if works as a prevent on the front, it should also work as a prevent on the backside.


219 posted on 03/31/2020 3:15:32 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: RummyChick

I just went back to thread five at the end of last month.

Those were the good old days—we were finishing stocking up on stuff, and holding our breath waiting for the s%$#storm to come on shore....


220 posted on 03/31/2020 3:16:56 PM PDT by cgbg (No more lies. Lies costs lives. Time for CDC to support diy masks.)
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