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1 posted on 03/27/2020 9:41:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Oy! A Jewish doctor! You’d have to be meshuggeneh not to listen.


2 posted on 03/27/2020 9:42:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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its being used in China, India, and lots more places, too


3 posted on 03/27/2020 9:43:05 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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I’m getting kind of tired of articles with “secret miracle cure” in the headline, supposedly found by an obscure doctor, or a secret miracle cure found by some other obscure doctor, or a “fake” niracle cure touted by a stock-rigger, as if it was something new, and finding that each time they are referring to chloroquine. Variants of these articles have been appearing for weeks, and Trump himself touted chloroquine in one of his briefings.

It’s like none of these reporters knows what’s going on in the rest of the world.


4 posted on 03/27/2020 9:49:33 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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Stopped reading at “controversial”.

The people who would write that are the same people whe believe that the statement that humans are born male or female is controversial.


5 posted on 03/27/2020 9:50:17 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Two contradictory lines from the article:
Joel, told the Forward he had given the drug regimen to more than 500 moderately ill people and no more than a handful needed hospitalization.

Joel, in Orange County, N.Y., had given the drug cocktail to more than 500 patients, and none required hospitalization.


7 posted on 03/27/2020 9:52:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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[[ and that demand for it could cause shortages that prevent access by people with other diseases who need it. ]]

Um— Israel is making millions of doses and sending them around the world and here-


8 posted on 03/27/2020 9:52:47 AM PDT by Bob434
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That kind of information could soon come, from the study about to start in New York...


About? ABOUT?!

Is this article two weeks old or something?


10 posted on 03/27/2020 9:54:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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Scum Democrats are doing whatever they can to stop this.


13 posted on 03/27/2020 9:58:15 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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I read that a company in Israel that manufactures Hydroxychloriquine sent 6 million pills yesterday to the US with another 4 million in the next month.

Reports from all over the globe are extremely positive that it works. Drugs have been around for decades. It is safe (in right dosage). Has it been exhaustively tested? Of course not! COVID-19 is pretty new; hard to have full testing completed. Do we wait? Hell no!

I know if I got COVID-19, I would demand it.

We can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good!

People are dying. This stuff works. Ramp up manufacturing and let’s get back to work!


15 posted on 03/27/2020 10:01:12 AM PDT by dan on the right
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This Dr. Zev Zelenko may be a total quack. However, he may be on target.

Corona out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.

As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).

My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days

2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days

3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A5ddw6_fk8Bv2ZjnRoLScXNfVWOUOv4MQyA7gXaKJyo/edit

Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko
Board Certified Family Practitioner
501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950
845-238-0000

March 23, 2020

To all medical professionals around the world:

My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I
have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close
knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and
unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.

As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19,
and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means
more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are
1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities,
etc).
Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the
pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:

Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless
their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).

My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and
South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know
that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication
within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial
infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the
patient is low.

Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another
150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had
ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of
any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and
Diarrhea.

In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as
possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute
respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.
With much respect,
Dr. Zev Zelenko
cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff

Please pay attention to this report by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security regarding Chloroquine Poisoning

The drug chloroquine, currently being investigated as a potential treatment for COVID-19, resulted in multiple overdose deaths in Nigeria. In the short period after the drug was touted by US President Donald Trump, prices reportedly skyrocketed by more than 400% in some locations due to increased demand, despite a dearth of evidence indicating that it is effective against COVID-19.

Watch the commercials for FDA approved drugs. Many have potential serious side effects, some including death.

Actor Daniel Dae Kim took chloroquine as part of his treatment and he called it a “secret weapon” in his treatment. A French doctor gave it to some 100 patients and none died. All recovered within several days.

“Yes, this is the drug that the President mentioned the other day,” Kim said in Saturday’s video. “It is also the drug that Dr. Anthony Fauci cautioned us about. He said that evidence that the drug was promising is anecdotal, and that is correct. It means it wasn’t studied, and it’s only based on personal accounts. Well, add my name to those personal accounts, because I am feeling better.”

Overdose deaths in Nigeria. The key word is overdose. The French patients were not overdosed.

Zinc is a good for dealing with colds. Overdosing zinc is not a good thing for the body. The key is proper usage.

“Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS Coronavirus infection and spread”- non.nih. Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.“

nlm.nih.gov - 2005-

If it worked for SARS CoV, then it’s not much of a leap that it might work for SARS CoV-2.

There real question is why wasn’t this drug tested and approved for use against SARS back in 2005? Trials showed it worked. If it had been approved, we could have tried this on CoV-2 when it first appeared, instead of just talking about trials 60 days after CoV-2 arrived.

Why do you think all the tension with Dr Fauci and Trump? Fauci has been part of NIH for 30 years, and they had chloroquine info for 15 years, but did nothing with it.

Daily maximum dose of Chloquine is 1,000 mg( 1 grams)/day.
2,000 mg/day is toxic and can kill the patient.


16 posted on 03/27/2020 10:03:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ((FearRepublic.com -WuhanDeathBros keeping media panic narrative going 24/7 to bring down Trump)!!!!)
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Clinical trials take time, that's something that we don't have in a pandemic situation like this. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that this drug helps and it's already FDA approved for other uses, the medical profession already knows the side effects and dosage limitations. We can sit around and clutch pearls about there not being clinical trials while people die or we can use it and most likely save some lives. We don't have time to run full blown clinical trials to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it works for this virus, the virus will have run it's course and killed people before the trials are through. The democrats can then pat themselves on the back while standing on the graves of the victims while saying "at least we didn't let them take a drug that didn't work".

Their logic is asinine and they're playing politics with people's lives strictly because they want to score political points against Trump. It's like standing around while your house burns afraid to squirt water on it because your firehose hasn't been UL approved.

17 posted on 03/27/2020 10:06:11 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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Wouldn’t Trump’s order on “Right to Try” supersede states’ efforts to ban the use of this drug?


22 posted on 03/27/2020 10:13:55 AM PDT by Defiant (I hope the Russians trick me into voting for Trump again in 2020.)
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“upstate N.Y”

I guess if you live in Brooklyn, it’s “Upstate”.

Orange County is Bedroom Commuter for NYC.
For most, upstate is Albany and further.

Kiryas Joel is an Haredi community of Brooklyn ex-pats that moved north to take over. Go further and you get the next gang in Bloomingburg, and other expired, wrecked Borscht Belt towns.

Western, Southern Tier, Lake Coast etc . . . . all area designations


24 posted on 03/27/2020 10:19:02 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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I’ve been wondering how many lupus sufferers taking hydroxychloroquine have contracted COVID-19.


25 posted on 03/27/2020 10:21:26 AM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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28 posted on 03/27/2020 10:40:23 AM PDT by sauropod (Fear can turn a human into an animal. Our speech is violence. Their violence is speech.)
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Indeed, one study of 30 patients from China recently concluded that giving the drug to Covid-19 patients provided no discernible benefit.

Lie by omission. There was an additional drug tested which was successful (can't remember the name) in five of six cases. Hydroxychloroquinine was successful in six of six. The conclusion was that it wasn't 'statistically' better than the other treatment.

Lying, lying hacks!!!

29 posted on 03/27/2020 10:45:48 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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CDC Has Known Since 2005 Chloroquine Was Very Effective Against Coronavirus In Lab Studies
33 posted on 03/27/2020 12:10:10 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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I do work up in Kiryas Joel and the Orthodox up there are orders of magnitude more interactively social than most Americans today. The kids the adults EVERYONE is out and about, intermingling by the hundreds all day every day. If this Corona bug was as deadly as we have been told Kiryas Joel would be a killing field. And WEEKS ago to boot.


39 posted on 03/27/2020 12:31:44 PM PDT by TalBlack
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I know how to find out if its working. ASK PEOPLE WHO TRIED IT!

I have seen/read of several and they were CURED! There must be HUNDREDS of those by now!

GO ASK THEM!


40 posted on 03/27/2020 12:34:29 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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Most of these predictions are educated guesses at best.


42 posted on 03/27/2020 3:59:03 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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