Posted on 03/26/2020 10:14:19 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #27 here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3828191/posts?page=1
They are in a location where they could stay tied up for 30 days, letting nobody off the ship except those going off in bubbles.
If duty calls, they COULD still get underway and deliver for a period of time. long enough to do some serious damage.
Thursday it was 662? so 2.3x maybe?
Then consider maybe 30% are die offsite (home/nursing home) or DOA. So hospitals are geared for less than the 270 avg. 2-3x that all at once all needing intensive intervention is what’s killing the hospital staff and the patients. It’s just too much for any system. Like crowding 50K fans in a 20K stadium and everyone expects a beer and hotdog. Not happening. Don’t understand why the flubros don’t understand it even when you explain it in beers.
“Quarantines are “the oldest trick in the book” to navies. To all the military.”
You start by cutting the crew in half. With critical skills evenly distributed. And on each USN vessel that is already done, at minimum. Fastidious and regular cleaning, as is custom.
Test everybody. Keep testing. Remove the positives.
They know how to do this.
No problem. You might be able to find a “deal” on one somewhere. Ours is a big Oster, electronic controls - Model # TSSTTVXLDG-001. We like it a lot. Haven’t used our ancient regular oven (built into range, which we use daily) in ages.
Note that I have NOT figured out how to ruin it at 150 deg. as the ads claim. The lowest I can adjust it is 200 deg. F (but “warm” is preset @ 165 deg., apparently.) “Defrost” I’ve not tested for actual temperature.
I wonder how they came up with that Model #?!
I haven’t really paid much attention to OR. Looks like their problems are in Multnomah 33, Marion 43, Washington 99, Clackamas 21. And the rest are one-offs. About 6K tests done.
With isolated cases, wouldn’t contact tracing still be applicable?
here’s where I got the numbers. Article headline is they aren’t testing in the ER. Is this to keep people from coming to the ER and instead going to testing pop-ups? or ? :
” Remove the positives.”
and hope you’re not on a submarine
Don’t know the particulars, but plague is ‘built in’ to navy procedures.
lol. the asymptomatics wouldn’t but the ‘contaminated’ or those they infected, would. Sorry, was a bit of word salad.
Ok, I had not read the comment you were replying to (and still haven’t) and wasn’t sure what ‘contaminated’ was. Sorry.
“and hope you’re not on a submarine”
Ballistic missile subs have a protocol for that with Blue and Gold crews and quarantines before/after turnover. Everyone tested multiple times.
But if you’re on a fast attack boat, you might be going out the #6 tube.
Which reminds me: If this is happening in the USN, it is happening in every navy of the world.
https://www.laprensalatina.com/spain-returns-faulty-test-kits-as-covid-19-deaths-pass-4000/
:Spain returns faulty test kits to China”
So diplomatic...
you all remember the Canadian health gal, a week or so ago, said with an embarrassed laugh that Canada was using a std test? or considering using it? And a video - something about a prick of blood and then a pregnancy test-stick looking thingy that gave a result in 15 min or so - with a colored bar like the preg test.
Doesn’t Chinese Original Virus ID-19 have an hiv element? Would a home std test work?
cancelled phones
it would have to be the CCP cancelling the phones, I don’t think ppl can do it on their own. Most were low-income limited data ones, weren’t they? Some could be foreign students but I don’t think 10M or even 5M students fled. Student airlifts have been under a few thousand and they only had a few days to get out commercial so maybe another few thousand?
very strange. Maybe the hantavirus rodents ate them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/world/asia/china-coronavirus.html
I found the above article while running a search based on reports of piles of phones outside crematoriums in China. I didn’t find the piles of phones, but the article said that Chinese authorities were making people use their cell phones to document and show where they had traveled so they could be stopped if they had been in an infected area.
I wonder if folks dumped their phones so they couldn’t be tracked? Although then I would imagine the neighborhood guard would just say “No phone? No entry.”
I ran that model # and went straight to it online. She’s a beauty! That’s what I was really after when I got my recent hunk-o-junk. Thanks again.
But if you’re on a fast attack boat, you might be going out the #6 tube.
that, was exactly what I was picturing - whoosh :)
I heard a guy interviewed who had spent a lot of time in China. He said they have to use those phones for everything. Can’t buy anything without it etc. Not sure they would even try to ditch the phones.
The following link and excerpts are from an early study of the Seattle area hospital that had many (most?) of the people from the Life Care center. It seems that being put on a ventilator gives you a 24% chance of survival if you are in that demographic.
Excerpts:
A total of 21 cases were included (mean age, 70 years [range, 43-92 years]; 52% male). Comorbidities were identified in 18 cases (86%)....
The mean onset of symptoms prior to presenting to the hospital was 3.5 days, and 17 patients (81%) were admitted to the ICU less than 24 hours after hospital admission....
Mechanical ventilation was initiated in 15 patients (71%) (Table 2). Acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) was observed in 15 of 15 patients (100%) requiring mechanical ventilation and 8 of 15 (53%) developed severe ARDS by 72 hours....
As of March 17, 2020, mortality was 67% and 24% of patients have remained critically ill and 9.5% have been discharged from the ICU.
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