Posted on 03/25/2020 9:23:43 AM PDT by kiryandil
Scott Adams blows up The System. He explains that celebrities get the hydroxychloroquine/Z-Pak regimen upon demand, and tells the peasants how to get it if they need it.
Key points:
1. A Covid test is $1000, and you wait five days while drowning in your own snot.
2. The hydroxychloroquine/Z-Pak regimen is $20-$50, you may get a case of diarrhea, and the regimen is five days long.
Episode 871 Scott Adams: It's Time to Stop Using an Obama Afghanistan Strategy Against a Virus
https://youtu.be/axDxEeanems?t=1035
Lots of the F-word. Scott is MAD, and he's putting the beatdown on the Elites.
"You gotta bring down the control to the doctor and the patient, and I'm gonna tell you how" starts at https://youtu.be/axDxEeanems?t=1205
I sent the links to studies, prepublication studies, and experience in multiple centers.
My favorite is the 3 armed study (French) with no drug, hydroxychloroquine alone, and HCQ with azithromycin where there was almost complete eradication of viral burden.
In an emergency with the saftey issue well established for the drug in all ages, sexes, pregnant women, and with multiple reports & studies indicating excellent results the use of the agent with the transmittal of patient outcomes to build a data bank is warranted.
Chart from the study
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3827653/posts?page=18#18
watch your QT interval
Has anyone considered the possibility that CDC employees; both current and retired; are posting here? Or others with an ‘agenda’?
I saw that chart. I also couldnt help but notice in the article I read that we didnt include confidence intervals because they were overlapping and confusing. Into the trash it goes. Sorry guys, i have been reading the Medical Literature all my life. I know where to look for snake oil and red flags in moments.
...But maybe one of the other drugs will save 90% of the deaths, and cut hospital time to 3 days. We want to find that out, not just jump on the first partial cure....
Using that logic we would never treat anyone. The next better drug might be just around the corner. We use the best cure we have for the patient in front of us especially if they are sick enough to need hospitalization.
I posted this article, and this guy jumps on less than two minutes later (not long enough to view the video) and starts posting "Oranges!".
Meanwhile, everyone else is posting "Apples!".
Anyone trying to get the guy to see "Apples!" gets an artillery barrage of "Oranges!" w/ a military-grade smokescreen in response.
Agenda.
Probably every US soldier in Nam took them. I know two of my friends did.
I took them when I was 13-14 living in South America, and again when I was 18 back in the States. Chloroquine (the first time) gave me an upset stomach. HydroxyChloroquine (the second) did not.
I’m now 71. So far, so good
Plus both of these drugs are regularly prescribed for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.
Take them or don’t take them. But you’ll die from virus before you die from these drugs.
Adams literally talks you through the steps you need to take with any doctor to get this stuff prescribed.
Step one though is to have symptoms...
The question is does it work? If the answer is no there is no benefit worth the risk. I dont see why this is so hard for a layman to understand.
I don’t know how common it is for people to die from lupus, but it looks like lung problems are common.
https://www.hopkinslupus.org/lupus-info/lupus-affects-body/lupus-lungs/
Like I said, i have seen plenty of people with Lupus. Off the top of my head I dont remember anyone dying from it and I do have a pretty clear memory of every patient I had that died. In 40 years I would estimate that I saw well over 100,000 patients. If that helps.
I’ve seen you post on threads that show anecdotal evidence of success of HCQ/Z with coronavirus, I’ve seen you on multiple threads that suggest positive affects of the drugs on covid19, yet here you are still pissing on the fire......”why give it to people with a comorbidity?”
so my wife lives with systemic Lupus and a heart condition and you think she shouldn’t have access Hydroxychloroquine/Z-Pak ?
thanks for sharing. your a moron. exactly what kind of “doctor” are you? I’d bet proctologist.
Anecdotal. Why settle for that? We have some real science with the data right there just begging to be done. Where is it?
One MORE time. People who live in those places dont take the drugs.
Well they certainly do in South America, and that was back in the 60’s.
You really believe everyone in Venezuela takes drugs to live there?
My wife has systemic Lupus. she belongs to a support group on Facebook with thousands of members. several in the hospital now, many of her friends have died due to Lupus.
you are apparently UN-educated about this disease.
completely uneducated.
I’m starting to question your credentials.
maybe your just a pompous book reader.
As an aside, here's a tip about working with experienced people who only slightly let on who they are (aka "sandbagging"). One would think that a non-medical person would pause for at lease a moment to reconsider attacking a subject matter expert ie medical doctor. Not only an MD, but one with experience treating regional epidemics and clinical field studies. Hey, but what do I know?
Anyway, I leave you to it. In the meantime, anyone curious about why NY has blown up? Here's why - as of day 11, they are 5x where Italy was, and 9x where the US was (in total) on their respective 11th days after the first recorded death. For the alarmists, this is wonderful news, because it validates their predictions of doom. For practical people, they see a specific region like NY representing 40% of all US deaths as a target for emergency resources & scaling.
Italy 60.5 IT v US USA 330.4 NY v IT NY 19.5 Day Date Cum Total % Chg Daily Ratio Date Cum Total % Chg Daily Ratio Date Cum Total % Chg Daily 1 2/21/2020 1 1 1.0 2/29/2020 1 1 2.0 3/14/2020 2 2 2 2/22/2020 2 100.0% 1 1.0 3/1/2020 2 100.0% 1 1.5 3/15/2020 3 50.0% 1 3 2/23/2020 3 50.0% 1 0.5 3/2/2020 6 200.0% 4 2.3 3/16/2020 7 133.3% 4 4 2/24/2020 7 133.3% 4 0.8 3/3/2020 9 50.0% 3 1.7 3/17/2020 12 71.4% 5 5 2/25/2020 10 42.9% 3 0.8 3/4/2020 12 33.3% 3 1.6 3/18/2020 16 33.3% 4 6 2/26/2020 12 20.0% 2 0.9 3/5/2020 14 16.7% 2 3.2 3/19/2020 38 137.5% 22 7 2/27/2020 17 41.7% 5 0.9 3/6/2020 18 28.6% 4 2.7 3/20/2020 46 21.1% 8 8 2/28/2020 21 23.5% 4 1.1 3/7/2020 19 5.6% 1 2.8 3/21/2020 58 26.1% 12 9 2/29/2020 29 38.1% 8 1.3 3/8/2020 22 15.8% 3 2.6 3/22/2020 76 31.0% 18 10 3/1/2020 34 17.2% 5 1.3 3/9/2020 26 18.2% 4 4.6 3/23/2020 157 106.6% 81 11 3/2/2020 52 52.9% 18 1.7 3/10/2020 31 19.2% 5 5.2 3/24/2020 271 72.6% 114 Gross differential 3.2 5.2 Population differential 5.5 32.2% Per capita differential 17.5 16.1 Growth rate Growth rate 25 Days 35.94% 29.73% 11 Days 62.27% 34 Days 30.01% 25.64% 34 33.72% Sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Italy
I don’t know buddy your the “doctor” get off your ass get off of free republic and go use your storied knowledge and do it yourself!
I’ve only known two people that had lupus (that i’m aware of), and one of them died from it. That may have skewed my impression of the seriousness of it.
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