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Corona Virus Daily Thread #26

Posted on 03/24/2020 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #25 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3827443/posts?page=1


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To: kaila
No one is saying you have to go to work. What you want is the government being the nanny state telling you what to do.
Most cases are mild.
If you choose to stay home, fine. Don’t take that choice away from others.


You haven't accepted the new new yet. You are still bargaining.

The world you knew is not going to be the same when this burns out in 18 months.

Blame the Chinese if you have to blame. Blame yourself if you failed to prepare and thought the world would always be the same.

The numbers you are seeing today are from infections a couple of weeks ago. Can you imagine two weeks from now?

Heading out will create greater infection. Will you spread the disease to others who will die? Think about it. People who are dead or dying won't enjoy the other side of the new world when it comes.
441 posted on 03/24/2020 2:48:42 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Spot on. It starts locally, and goes up from there.


442 posted on 03/24/2020 2:49:17 PM PDT by datura
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To: Mariner

2/8
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The Great China Plague of 2020 (daily thread #23)
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Corona Virus Daily Thread #24
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Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#the-symptoms-of-covid-19

https://data.vcstar.com/coronavirus/
Tracking the Coronavirus Contagion: Active Cases

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
https://ncov2019.live/data

realtime corona virus updates
https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

https://kungflu.net/

Corona Virus - COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2: LIVE stats and graphs
https://covid2019.azurewebsites.net/

Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Use the tabs to navigate—the “states” tabs has links to the state’s websites for latest updates
—The world
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Temperature and Latitude Analysis to Predict Potential Spread and Seasonality for COVID-19
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308

This document shows how COVID-19 attracts to cell receptors of those with more ACE2 receptors
https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/early/2020/01/23/JVI.00127-20.full.pdf

Comparative genetic analysis of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2) receptor ACE2 in different populations
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0147-1

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as a SARS-CoV-2 receptor: molecular mechanisms and potential therapeutic target
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00134-020-05985-9

Possibility that HIV virus is in Corona virus, intentional, man made
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

Coronavirus far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say

“All the crematoriums of Hubei are backed up & cannot take bodies.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228451610868830209.html

China Coronavirus: Tough Realities & Possibility of Global Pandemic—Epidemic Reporter Laurie Garrett
https://youtu.be/Jcthdee6CXs

https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/general-chis-nasty-wuhan-soup-a-recipe-for-biowar/
General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar

Chinese general’s speech on the need for land to expand greater china and to do it they must kill Americans and Canadians
https://chinawatchcanada.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-vice-chairman-of-chinas-military.html

China has posited that the high rate of mortality in Wuhan was prior exposure to SARS. I’m not sure if Italy was involved with the SARS, but they’re a good test of that Chinese claim.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300344?via%3Dihub

Corona Virus has many mutations and subtypes
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

Researchers in China have found that two different types of the new coronavirus could be causing infections worldwide.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/coronavirus-chinese-scientists-identify-two-types-covid-19.html

US hospitals are preparing for 96 MILLION coronavirus infections and nearly HALF A MILLION deaths, leaked documents reveal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8085175/US-hospitals-prepare-96-MILLION-coronavirus-cases-HALF-MILLION-deaths-leaked-papers-show.html

something big missing in the conversation re: how fast we could potentially develop and deploy a vaccine at large scale.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236744502317961216.html

coronavirus causes permanent lung damage
https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus+causes+permanent+lung+damage&form=APMCS1&PC=APMC

Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus (hCoV-19)
https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Earlier today I published a story showing that Iran’s #COVID19 numbers—already frighteningly high—are possibly hundreds of times (!) higher than officially acknowledged. Here I’ll run through my methods for arriving at this figure:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237067952018653185.html

seasonal flu kill about 0.1 percent who become infected. 1918 flu unusually high fatality rate, around 2%.
Coronavirus higher death rate
Infection Rate:
COVID-19 appears to infect 2.2 other people.
The seasonal flu roughly 1.3
Coronavirus more contagious
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

There is an excellent chance that you do not have coronavirus.
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/real-time-updates-34-cases-of-coronavirus-in-texas-11-in-sa-area/273-ac6c7142-a932-47f2-ba88-2097b9e78978

Here’s the CDC description of signs and symptoms:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html

Here’s the CDC advice about what to do if you are sick:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/steps-when-sick.html


got a new one to combine here:

Previously, (hat tip to grey_whiskers)
posted the original medical articles explaining how a corona virus was modified, intentionally, and that is could also jump from bats to humans

“it was engineered alright. At UNC-Chapel Hill, with the assistance of a Chi-com.

SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronavirus pose threat for human emergence
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

UNC Epidemiology Study: New SARS-Like Virus May Be Nearly Ready to Infect Humans
https://global.unc.edu/news-story/unc-epidemiology-study-new-sars-like-virus-may-be-nearly-ready-to-infect-humans/

SARS-like WIV1-CoV poised for human emergence
https://www.pnas.org/content/113/11/3048.full

New SARS-like virus can jump directly from bats to humans, no treatment available
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151110115711.
https://web.archive.org/web/20151115003432/http://www.sciencedaily.com:80/releases/2015/11/151110115711.htm

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry ”and tested their interactions with human SARS-CoV spike protein using both HIV-based pseudotype and live SARS-CoV infection assays.”
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00705-010-0729-6

Top 10 Reasons To Believe the Wuhan Virology Lab Caused 2019-nCoV
https://listverse.com/2020/03/20/top-10-reasons-to-believe-the-wuhan-virology-lab-caused-2019-ncov/

Canadian government scientist under investigation trained staff at Level 4 Lab in [Wuhan] China OCT 3, 2019
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424

Earlier reporting by CBC on July 14th (see below) stated Dr. Xiangguo Qiu and her husband and an unknown number of students were escorted out of the Canadian Level 4 lab. The Canadian government had been investigating them for months and had evidence there was removal of unauthorized material from Winnipeg to China. From the little information allowed to be publicly released it seems there was intellectual property or technology leakage. However, the important aspect of this is that this group was involved in setting up the Level 4 lab in Wuhan.
July report:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567

Well, seems some other people knew where to go with that:
“A Harvard Professor, The DOD & NIH, A Chinese Spy, 21 Stolen Vials Of “Biological Research”, & Nanoscience
https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/connecting-dots-harvard-the-nih-dod-chinese-spies-21-stolen-vials-of-biological-research-nano-bioelectronics/

Links to the DOJ arrest and search for the missing Chinese woman whose name is on the original medical papers as being part of the team who created the virus

Note the wording; “ ...we generated and characterized a chimeric virus.” She didn’t just study it, she generated it.

“Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

This is more than a flu.

Was it a bioweapon?
Stefan Molyneux interviews Dr Paul Cottrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VEYzwSdZU

Coronavirus Bioweapon – How China Stole Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponized It
https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/

Trump would not be doing what he has done for a flu.

What it is, I dunno, maybe just a bad flu, but the Chinese went full martial law to contain it, and entire countries are quarantining themselves over it, and the democrats are willing to destroy the USA to let it in.


Read the names.
Le is one of the original people listed as being part of altering a Corona Virus
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238701550236774400.html


old article, but this was intelligence gathered by Taiwan in 2008, they believe that SARS came from the same city, Wuhan, and COVID-19

https://www.smh.com.au/world/sars-a-chinese-weapon-taiwan-official-20081007-4vse.html


The “plan”
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

—Explanation of the “plan”—start at ten minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmhsNdW24BM

—The states
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89_163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8w/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#


“Coronavirus may cause testicular damage, male infertility, research finds”

it may have been a bioweapon. Eliminate over 50’s with illness/lack of ICU availability and sterilize the youngsters. population replacement possible within 2 generations.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182389.shtml


Is the corona virus a bio-weapon?
THIS IS A MUST READ!
https://teletype.in/@adrianbond/Bg361tQU

Was it a bioweapon?
Stefan Molyneux interviews Dr Paul Cottrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VEYzwSdZU


Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973?query=featured_home


COVID19 Files – Scientific Investigation On Mysterious Origin Of Coronavirus
By GreatGameIndia -
February 21, 2020
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:20 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/covid19-files-scientific-investigation-on-mysterious-origin-of-coronavirus/

Dr. Francis Boyle Creator Of BioWeapons Act Says Coronavirus Is Biological Warfare Weapon
By GreatGameIndia -
February 3, 2020
Last modified on March 23rd, 2020 at 1:51 am,
https://greatgameindia.com/dr-francis-boyle-creator-of-bioweapons-act-says-coronavirus-is-biological-warfare-weapon/

Coronavirus – China’s Secret Plan To Weaponize Viruses
By GreatGameIndia -
February 1, 2020
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:41 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-chinas-secret-plan-to-weaponize-viruses/

Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
By GreatGameIndia -
February 1, 2020
Last modified on February 27th, 2020 at 3:24 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/uncanny-similarity-of-unique-inserts-in-the-2019-ncov-spike-protein-to-hiv-1-gp120-and-gag/

Indian Scientists Discover Coronavirus Engineered With HIV (AIDS) Like Insertions
By GreatGameIndia -
February 1, 2020
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:42 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/indian-scientists-discover-coronavirus-engineered-with-aids-like-insertions/

Chinese Biowarfare Agents At Harvard University Caught Smuggling Viruses
By GreatGameIndia -
January 29, 2020
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:45 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/chinese-biowarfare-agents-at-harvard-university-caught-smuggling-viruses/

Weaponizing Biotech – China’s War for Biological Dominance
By GreatGameIndia -
January 25, 2020
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:46 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/weaponizing-biotech-chinas-war-for-biological-dominance/

Rise Of China’s Biological Warfare Program
By GreatGameIndia -
January 24, 2020
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:47 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/chinas-biological-warfare-program/

Dr. Xiangguo Qiu – Chinese Biological Warfare Agent
By GreatGameIndia -
October 1, 2019
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:48 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/dr-xiangguo-qiu-chinese-biological-warfare-agent/

Chinese Researchers Caught Stealing Coronavirus From Canadian Lab
By GreatGameIndia -
July 23, 2019
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:50 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/chinese-researchers-caught-stealing-coronavirus-from-canadian-lab/

Canada Investigates China’s Biological Espionage
By GreatGameIndia -
August 8, 2019
Last modified on March 22nd, 2020 at 9:49 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/canada-investigates-chinas-biological-espionage/

Canadian Lab Acquires Coronavirus Sample
By GreatGameIndia -
May 16, 2013
Last modified on February 12th, 2020 at 7:45 am,
https://greatgameindia.com/canadian-lab-acquires-coronavirus-sample/

Coronavirus Bioweapon – How China Stole Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponized It
By GreatGameIndia -
January 26, 2020
Last modified on March 16th, 2020 at 10:54 pm,
https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/



443 posted on 03/24/2020 2:49:26 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: Mariner

“Either China or Russia could opt to seize large portions of the world as they see the west paralyzed in fear.”

They have their own problems, Panda Propaganda notwithstanding.

So far our military is not significantly compromised. So far. Military recruit age people seem to be less vulnerable - not invulnerable, but less.

We could always do virus boot camp. You go to get infected in a controlled environment, and the 98-99% that survive, go back to work.

Oh, wait, that is what we ARE doing.


444 posted on 03/24/2020 2:49:41 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: scouter

Rush will learn when he gets his ratings.


445 posted on 03/24/2020 2:51:02 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: CJ Wolf

March, 23, 2020
DC Public Health Laboratory and Outside Laboratory Coronavirus Testing Metrics as of 7:30 pm

Number of people tested overall: 1334
Number of PHL positives: 36
Number of commercial lab positives: 101
Number of PHL negatives: 116
Number of commercial lab negatives: 1079
Number of PHL tests in progress: 2
Number of Deaths: 2
Number of People who have Recovered: 17

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/page/coronavirus-data

More cases than GA and LA but we have 32 deaths/37 deaths. I hope we will have answers soon. There has to be a demographic or risk factor


446 posted on 03/24/2020 2:52:51 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: PA Engineer

The worst will be a million dead in the US.
Most elderly.
It is a virus, it will burn itself out.
Lets not take down the economy with it.
If you are high risk, stay home.


447 posted on 03/24/2020 2:54:58 PM PDT by kaila
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To: dfwgator

Proximity is a big factor. This thing likes crowds a lot.

Friend in Brazil said the people in the slums are just partying despite the government telling them to isolate/distance. There are not going to be as many Socialist voters next time around. Brazil has crappy HC, too.


448 posted on 03/24/2020 2:55:16 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: kaila

I think there is something you have missed.

This is a new virus. Never seen before by a human immune system.

Everyone will get this. Everyone. Not one person exposed to this, at a infectious dose, will not get infected.

This shut down, whether it’s two weeks ot two years, will not change that.

As soon as people start to congregate, it will kick up again. Here is a stock tip: Short the entire stock market 5 days after we “reopen.” Because we will shut down again. Just like China. Hong Kong is going to again. Korea is kicking up again.

I am not saying anyone will die. But will your company allow you to sit next to another employee if you are infected, or if the other person is.

This whole process was to slow this down. We are some days away from seeing if this has worked.

The death rate will pop up this week. Deaths usually occur between day 10-14.

So, go ahead and open the gates. Just make sure not to kiss your mom this Mother’s Day. Because you WILL have it.

(Herd immunity happens after generations, not 15 days. To think it has anything to do with whether you or I, means you do not understand the term.)


449 posted on 03/24/2020 2:56:26 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: blueplum

Now I just need to find some kids. Thanks for that.


450 posted on 03/24/2020 2:56:29 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: LilFarmer

Missouri up from 183 yesterday to 255 today. Was 109 day before yesterday.

Under 20 8
20-29 60
30-39 34
40-49 27
50-59 51
60-69 42
70+ 33

100 of the cases are in St Louis County plus another 23 in St Louis city


451 posted on 03/24/2020 2:57:22 PM PDT by Pollard (shadowbanned)
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To: In_Iowa_not_from

Only if you probate the will. Just sayin’.


452 posted on 03/24/2020 2:57:36 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: All

“Fair Allocation of Scarce Medical Resources in the Time of Covid-19”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb2005114?fbclid=IwAR1kA7VMtv-G6ZX1N-xl1yMpqS_bOGosIk9ySNbhCGcUWkj7UNUuL9J-2MQ

Source: New England Journal of Medicine


453 posted on 03/24/2020 2:58:16 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: LilFarmer

Speaking of potato chips, only the awful ones are left, if I can be so banal at a time like this.


454 posted on 03/24/2020 2:58:39 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Vermont Lt

“America’s pensions to the fool picking his nose across from you”

So true..


455 posted on 03/24/2020 2:58:43 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Vermont Lt

We’ve all tried to reason with this person. Instead of responding, they just move on to the next person. Appears just a troll.


456 posted on 03/24/2020 2:59:04 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: BusterDog

Hope ‘that poster’ doesn’t have a heart attack or stroke while this ‘burns out’.

No resources will be spent treating that.


457 posted on 03/24/2020 2:59:18 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Vermont Lt

The silver plate spoons could be used to eat with and may have some anti-microbial use.

“The pioneers who traveled west would put silver coins in their water barrels to keep the water from spoiling. Back before there was refrigeration, people would put a silver coin in their milk jugs to keep the milk fresh longer.”


458 posted on 03/24/2020 2:59:34 PM PDT by In_Iowa_not_from
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To: LilFarmer

I think it’s a rollcon trying to make conservatives look bad.

‘it’s only 1% of the population, it’s only the elderly, we can’t crash the economy’.

(sounds like what the dems would write as a pubbie talking point).


459 posted on 03/24/2020 3:00:22 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Vermont Lt

Wonder if the Indians are obedient like the HKers or Taiwanese.


460 posted on 03/24/2020 3:01:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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