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Corona Virus Daily Thread #24

Posted on 03/22/2020 10:17:36 AM PDT by Mariner

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The Great China Plague of 2020 (daily thread #23)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3826809/posts

Corona Virus Daily Thread #24
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Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#the-symptoms-of-covid-19

https://data.vcstar.com/coronavirus/
Tracking the Coronavirus Contagion: Active Cases

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
https://ncov2019.live/data

realtime corona virus updates
https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

https://kungflu.net/

Corona Virus - COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2: LIVE stats and graphs
https://covid2019.azurewebsites.net/

Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Use the tabs to navigate—the “states” tabs has links to the state’s websites for latest updates
—The world
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Temperature and Latitude Analysis to Predict Potential Spread and Seasonality for COVID-19
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308

This document shows how COVID-19 attracts to cell receptors of those with more ACE2 receptors
https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/early/2020/01/23/JVI.00127-20.full.pdf

Comparative genetic analysis of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2) receptor ACE2 in different populations
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0147-1

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as a SARS-CoV-2 receptor: molecular mechanisms and potential therapeutic target
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00134-020-05985-9

Possibility that HIV virus is in Corona virus, intentional, man made
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

Coronavirus far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say

“All the crematoriums of Hubei are backed up & cannot take bodies.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228451610868830209.html

China Coronavirus: Tough Realities & Possibility of Global Pandemic—Epidemic Reporter Laurie Garrett
https://youtu.be/Jcthdee6CXs

https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/general-chis-nasty-wuhan-soup-a-recipe-for-biowar/
General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar

Chinese general’s speech on the need for land to expand greater china and to do it they must kill Americans and Canadians
https://chinawatchcanada.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-vice-chairman-of-chinas-military.html

China has posited that the high rate of mortality in Wuhan was prior exposure to SARS. I’m not sure if Italy was involved with the SARS, but they’re a good test of that Chinese claim.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300344?via%3Dihub

Corona Virus has many mutations and subtypes
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

Researchers in China have found that two different types of the new coronavirus could be causing infections worldwide.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/coronavirus-chinese-scientists-identify-two-types-covid-19.html

US hospitals are preparing for 96 MILLION coronavirus infections and nearly HALF A MILLION deaths, leaked documents reveal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8085175/US-hospitals-prepare-96-MILLION-coronavirus-cases-HALF-MILLION-deaths-leaked-papers-show.html

something big missing in the conversation re: how fast we could potentially develop and deploy a vaccine at large scale.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236744502317961216.html

coronavirus causes permanent lung damage
https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus+causes+permanent+lung+damage&form=APMCS1&PC=APMC

Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus (hCoV-19)
https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Earlier today I published a story showing that Iran’s #COVID19 numbers—already frighteningly high—are possibly hundreds of times (!) higher than officially acknowledged. Here I’ll run through my methods for arriving at this figure:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237067952018653185.html

seasonal flu kill about 0.1 percent who become infected. 1918 flu unusually high fatality rate, around 2%.
Coronavirus higher death rate
Infection Rate:
COVID-19 appears to infect 2.2 other people.
The seasonal flu roughly 1.3
Coronavirus more contagious
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387


There is an excellent chance that you do not have coronavirus.
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/real-time-updates-34-cases-of-coronavirus-in-texas-11-in-sa-area/273-ac6c7142-a932-47f2-ba88-2097b9e78978

Here’s the CDC description of signs and symptoms:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html

Here’s the CDC advice about what to do if you are sick:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/steps-when-sick.html


got a new one to combine here:

Previously, (hat tip to grey_whiskers)
posted the original medical articles explaining how a corona virus was modified, intentionally, and that is could also jump from bats to humans

“it was engineered alright. At UNC-Chapel Hill, with the assistance of a Chi-com.

SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronavirus pose threat for human emergence
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

New SARS-like virus can jump directly from bats to humans, no treatment available
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151110115711.
https://web.archive.org/web/20151115003432/http://www.sciencedaily.com:80/releases/2015/11/151110115711.htm

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry
“”and tested their interactions with human SARS-CoV spike protein using both HIV-based pseudotype and live SARS-CoV infection assays.””
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00705-010-0729-6

Top 10 Reasons To Believe the Wuhan Virology Lab Caused 2019-nCoV
https://listverse.com/2020/03/20/top-10-reasons-to-believe-the-wuhan-virology-lab-caused-2019-ncov/

Well, seems some other people knew where to go with that:
“A Harvard Professor, The DOD & NIH, A Chinese Spy, 21 Stolen Vials Of “Biological Research”, & Nanoscience

https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/connecting-dots-harvard-the-nih-dod-chinese-spies-21-stolen-vials-of-biological-research-nano-bioelectronics/

Links to the DOJ arrest and search for the missing Chinese woman whose name is on the original medical papers as being part of the team who created the virus

Note the wording; “ ...we generated and characterized a chimeric virus.” She didn’t just study it, she generated it.

“Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

This is more than a flu.

Was it a bioweapon?
Stefan Molyneux interviews Dr Paul Cottrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VEYzwSdZU

Trump would not be doing what he has done for a flu.

What it is, I dunno, maybe just a bad flu, but the Chinese went full martial law to contain it, and entire countries are quarantining themselves over it, and the democrats are willing to destroy the USA to let it in.


Read the names.
Le is one of the original people listed as being part of altering a Corona Virus
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238701550236774400.html


old article, but this was intelligence gathered by Taiwan in 2008, they believe that SARS came from the same city, Wuhan, and COVID-19

https://www.smh.com.au/world/sars-a-chinese-weapon-taiwan-official-20081007-4vse.html


The “plan”
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

—Explanation of the “plan”—start at ten minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmhsNdW24BM

—The states
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89_163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8w/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#


“Coronavirus may cause testicular damage, male infertility, research finds”

it may have been a bioweapon. Eliminate over 50’s with illness/lack of ICU availability and sterilize the youngsters. population replacement possible within 2 generations.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182389.shtml


Is the corona virus a bio-weapon?
THIS IS A MUST READ!
https://teletype.in/@adrianbond/Bg361tQU

Was it a bioweapon?
Stefan Molyneux interviews Dr Paul Cottrell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VEYzwSdZU



241 posted on 03/22/2020 1:46:42 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: gleeaikin

Agreed. D, C, zinc, magnesium, selenium and a general multi here. (Also get plenty of calcium.) Plus a little daily early garden prep. Make sure to get sleep and keep a solid attitude too. I am not near 81 yet—but hope to get there.


242 posted on 03/22/2020 1:48:41 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mlo
You are absolutely correct. If you want the sheet, or wish to build your own, it would be trivial to run the same comparison for different states against Italy and/or other countries.

I was just interested in the broad picture concerning the US since the nat'l emergency directives affect the entire country.

243 posted on 03/22/2020 1:48:46 PM PDT by semantic
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
the studies...

That makes sense. I don't know how big of a sampling that would provide.

244 posted on 03/22/2020 1:49:07 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Is it time Claire?)
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To: RummyChick; Jane Long; null and void; All

After they are sick, people often get up when they feel better and go back to work or do other things. They should stay in bed at least a day longer, and be gently active for several days after.


245 posted on 03/22/2020 1:52:25 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: BlackbirdSST

tens of thousands...


246 posted on 03/22/2020 1:54:20 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill ( ERIC CIARAMELLA IS THE OBAMA MOLE HIDING BEHIND THE WHISTLEBLOWER LAWS)
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To: gleeaikin

“under this f’d up system, the virus will never be eradicated”

The only way it’ll be eradicated is global lockdown. Each country. Each state. Each county. Each city. For 21 days. That’s not a lot to ask compared to having this monster killing off the entire human race. It won’t happen because humans are too whiny. We’re going to drag this thing out until...


247 posted on 03/22/2020 1:55:51 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: SE Mom

Just think of that situation. The number one medical doctor in Germany administering healthcare to the number one political leader in Germany. There goes Octoberfest.


248 posted on 03/22/2020 1:56:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
Harvey Weinstein won't be hanging himself after all . . .

HARVEY WEINSTEIN TESTS POSITIVE
EXCLUSIVE from @TipMahoney @EMPIREREPORTNY @Variety https://t.co/8qi3vc5ocw— Joe Mahoney (@TipMahoney) March 22, 2020


249 posted on 03/22/2020 1:56:41 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Jane Long

Yes. Posted highlights. What did you think?

I think we’re screwed.


250 posted on 03/22/2020 1:56:42 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: InterceptPoint; amorphous; wastoute; LS; Travis McGee
The chart shows cum totals, day-day % delta, and daily recorded deaths. You can x-reference them to the sources listed at the bottom of the chart. They seem to be pretty accurate - I don't know if wiki is referencing others, or others are referencing them, but they agree on both daily & cum totals.

Also, see reply above - this same analysis can be performed at increased granularity for states like CA, NY, etc versus Italy, Korea, etc. If anyone wants the sheet to play around/copy, just PM me and I'll send a link.

It's important to note that the only real data points we have are actual recorded deaths. Everything else is pure speculation/estimates/projections - for example, cases. What exactly is a "case", and is it growing simply due to increased testing? Since it's basically an entirely useless metric, why compare it to deaths? It just corrupts real information we have on mortality patterns that are beginning to emerge.

I must once again mention that Wastoute (MD) is the one who began pointing out last week that all we really need to do is follow deaths. Over time, with each additional day, a pattern will begin to emerge that clearly presents the exponential factors and provide us with a clear plateau/peak when actually reached. (That is, peak deaths are approx 12-14 days after peak infections.)

We don't really need to know total infections either, other than curiosity about population dynamics. Not only are actual recorded mortality figures the most accurate data we have, but they are also the most relevant in terms of capacity planning. (Total feeling ill, total checking in at health care facilities, total admitted, total upgraded to ICU, total dead.)

The key take away so far is we are far, far off the experience taking place in Italy. Sure, we could have a burst of activity, but it would take some pretty incredible daily increases to move the overall US mortality rate up at this point. Not saying it couldn't happen, but as each day progresses in the 25% zone, it will become increasing difficult for the curve to really ramp up in an asymptotic manner.

What that means is different for different people. For people like me, it tells me this crisis is already over. I don't see how we could even hit 50k deaths over the next 4-8 weeks, unless everything that's been experienced/recorded so far was either grossly in error, or there's some kind of 2nd stage CV follow up that goes batshit crazy.

251 posted on 03/22/2020 1:57:06 PM PDT by semantic
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To: Mom MD

According to my calculations, from yesterday to today, the # of US cases went up 41% and deaths went up 39%. I didn’t timestamp the data so it may not be exact.

3/21/2020 22,112 280
3/22/2020 31,191 390


252 posted on 03/22/2020 1:57:23 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: bgill

Yep. The longer they wait....well, you know.


253 posted on 03/22/2020 1:57:38 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: RaceBannon

I can’t bear the thought of not being able to sire children


254 posted on 03/22/2020 1:58:35 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: gleeaikin

YES!!! THIS!!!


255 posted on 03/22/2020 1:58:51 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: Jane Long

We just started testing here last week and they found 1 positive. Officials say more expected.


256 posted on 03/22/2020 1:58:58 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: BusterDog; dfwgator

HARVEY WEINSTEIN TESTS POSITIVE

==

Gee....who didn’t see THAT one???

One of the replies....He IS a virus.


257 posted on 03/22/2020 1:59:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill; BlackbirdSST; EnquiringMind; All

In your comment regarding off label drug use, you said “they must be past some threshold...” Did you mean probably are, or are required to be, for the word “MUST.”


258 posted on 03/22/2020 1:59:57 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: justa-hairyape

Their actions only reinforce the bioweapon theory IMHO.


259 posted on 03/22/2020 2:01:08 PM PDT by datura
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To: semantic

Thank you. Your eloquence exceeds mine. 5,000 deaths cumulative by a week to ten days. If we have been successful “staying on the couch” there is the asymptote and it should drop of quickly. We can do what no country in the world could do. “AMerican Exceptionalism.”


260 posted on 03/22/2020 2:01:30 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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