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The Great China Plague of 2020 (daily thread #23)

Posted on 03/21/2020 9:34:18 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3826523/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 23thread; covid19; cvlivethread
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To: Irish Eyes
Thanks for the post. I pondered weeks ago why we did not have a quick saliva test. In our project we have a turn around of one hour. I suppose it is administrative overhead slowing things down.

For your reference:

Saliva as a diagnostic specimen for testing respiratory virus by a point-of-care molecular assay: a diagnostic validity study
381 posted on 03/21/2020 10:42:28 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Jane Long

That’s also a large part of our plan too.
Would like to see more testing of elderly, more protection for them.
But it’s a good plan. The young wouldn’t isolate anyway.


382 posted on 03/21/2020 10:48:33 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Jane Long

We intend to just stay at home for at least 30 days. It’s not really a big change. We usually get milk and perishables once a week, order some stuff on line once a month. Fresh milk is the only thing we’ll miss.

We always have enough in our pantry and freezer to last for several months. And we don’t usually go out during Jan. and Feb. Sometimes we order pizza, but not doing that either.

No one needed to order us to stay home—we had no intentions of going out. We did have some delayed delivery on some on line purchases. Hubby has finally agreed to leave the boxes outside to be sprayed with bleach solution.

I experienced inability to breath a couple of times as a reaction to medication. I never ever want to experience that again. So maybe I take it too seriously—but I don’t really think so.

Our grand daughter called yesterday to make sure we were ok and staying home. She said she told her hubby that she was pretty sure I’d have it all planned out and be well-stocked with food and meds.


383 posted on 03/21/2020 11:14:47 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: BusterDog

Converting gyms to wards: preparing for a pandemic.
1918 Influenza pandemic at @IowaStateU
2020 Coronavirus pandemic at @Yale -- today. pic.twitter.com/aG0tj0sFnV— Nicholas A. Christakis (@NAChristakis) March 21, 2020


384 posted on 03/21/2020 11:18:28 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: PA Engineer

Thanks for the link. Interesting


385 posted on 03/21/2020 11:23:36 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: goodnesswins

“Lotsa people are ordering takeout or using drive thrus...even taking it to nursing homes for their elders (some in our family) Doesn’t anyone question the safety of that...”

I question it, but still do it once a week. If I’m going inside a store I wear a mask, goggles and gloves. I am not “afraid” - but I take it seriously.

My view of ordering takeout is that the exposure of the food/packaging is limited to one or two people cooking it and bringing it out to the car.

I try to only order hot food (cooked food is hot enough to destroy the virus), although tonight’s dinner came with a salad.

Our weekly “night-out” is now take out at small local restaurants to try to help them out.

I view my typical precautions as wearing a seat belt. I don’t put on my seat belt because I’m afraid - I just use it to be prudent. In my mind (and I might be wrong) but the one night of take out is comparable to driving down the block to our neighbor’s house without buckling up.


386 posted on 03/21/2020 11:25:05 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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http://drudgereport.com/

there are maybe 6 stories no related to the virus.

yes virginia, the world has changed.


387 posted on 03/22/2020 1:26:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: blueplum

Probably uses their Smartphone app to order.


388 posted on 03/22/2020 3:50:28 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Thud; Mariner

lol @ eat it with your hands in the parking lot. If you get it smothered, it will get a bit messy. Also might want to try the baked sweet potato. A nice change from the rocksalt baked potato.


389 posted on 03/22/2020 4:09:17 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: mrsmith

I think the Chinese are adapted to their government’s lying.

Westerners more naïve.

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So naive, in fact, they even believe the Chinese


390 posted on 03/22/2020 4:19:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Mariner

2/8
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3814871/posts

2/9
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3815061/posts

2/10
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3815321/posts

2/11 - 2/12
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3815664/posts

2/12 - 2/13
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3815980/posts

2/13 - 2/14
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3816298/posts

2/14 - 2/15
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3816613/posts

2/15 2/16
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3816849/posts

corona 2/17-2/18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3817272/posts

corona virus weekend thread 2/22/2020
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3818597/posts

thread 1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3818863/posts

thread 2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3819175/posts

Thread 3
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3819472/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3819771/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820145/posts

thread 6
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820357/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3820821/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3821104/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3821430/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3821921/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3822365/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3822786/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3823193/posts

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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3825150/posts

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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3825446/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3825807/posts

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http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3826151/posts

thread 22
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3826523/posts

The Great China Plague of 2020 (daily thread #23)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3826809/posts

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#the-symptoms-of-covid-19

https://data.vcstar.com/coronavirus/
Tracking the Coronavirus Contagion: Active Cases

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
https://ncov2019.live/data

realtime corona virus updates
https://www.globaltimes.cn//content/1177737.shtml

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

https://kungflu.net/

Corona Virus - COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2: LIVE stats and graphs
https://covid2019.azurewebsites.net/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Johns Hopkins Corona Virus map
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Temperature and Latitude Analysis to Predict Potential Spread and Seasonality for COVID-19
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3550308

This document shows how COVID-19 attracts to cell receptors of those with more ACE2 receptors
https://jvi.asm.org/content/jvi/early/2020/01/23/JVI.00127-20.full.pdf

Comparative genetic analysis of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2) receptor ACE2 in different populations
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-020-0147-1

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as a SARS-CoV-2 receptor: molecular mechanisms and potential therapeutic target
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00134-020-05985-9

Possibility that HIV virus is in Corona virus, intentional, man made
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

Coronavirus far more likely than Sars to bond to human cells due to HIV-like mutation, scientists say
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052495/coronavirus-far-more-likely-sars-bond-human-cells-scientists-say

“All the crematoriums of Hubei are backed up & cannot take bodies.”
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228451610868830209.html

China Coronavirus: Tough Realities & Possibility of Global Pandemic—Epidemic Reporter Laurie Garrett
https://youtu.be/Jcthdee6CXs

https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/general-chis-nasty-wuhan-soup-a-recipe-for-biowar/
General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar

Chinese general’s speech on the need for land to expand greater china and to do it they must kill Americans and Canadians
https://chinawatchcanada.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-vice-chairman-of-chinas-military.html

China has posited that the high rate of mortality in Wuhan was prior exposure to SARS. I’m not sure if Italy was involved with the SARS, but they’re a good test of that Chinese claim.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1286457920300344?via%3Dihub

Corona Virus has many mutations and subtypes
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

Researchers in China have found that two different types of the new coronavirus could be causing infections worldwide.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/coronavirus-chinese-scientists-identify-two-types-covid-19.html

US hospitals are preparing for 96 MILLION coronavirus infections and nearly HALF A MILLION deaths, leaked documents reveal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8085175/US-hospitals-prepare-96-MILLION-coronavirus-cases-HALF-MILLION-deaths-leaked-papers-show.html

something big missing in the conversation re: how fast we could potentially develop and deploy a vaccine at large scale.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236744502317961216.html

coronavirus causes permanent lung damage
https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus+causes+permanent+lung+damage&form=APMCS1&PC=APMC

Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus (hCoV-19)
https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Earlier today I published a story showing that Iran’s #COVID19 numbers—already frighteningly high—are possibly hundreds of times (!) higher than officially acknowledged. Here I’ll run through my methods for arriving at this figure:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237067952018653185.html

seasonal flu kill about 0.1 percent who become infected. 1918 flu unusually high fatality rate, around 2%.
Coronavirus higher death rate
Infection Rate:
COVID-19 appears to infect 2.2 other people.
The seasonal flu roughly 1.3
Coronavirus more contagious
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387


There is an excellent chance that you do not have coronavirus.
https://www.kens5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/real-time-updates-34-cases-of-coronavirus-in-texas-11-in-sa-area/273-ac6c7142-a932-47f2-ba88-2097b9e78978

Here’s the CDC description of signs and symptoms:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html

Here’s the CDC advice about what to do if you are sick:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/steps-when-sick.html


got a new one to combine here:

Previously, (hat tip to grey_whiskers)
posted the original medical articles explaining how a corona virus was modified, intentionally, and that is could also jump from bats to humans

“it was engineered alright. At UNC-Chapel Hill, with the assistance of a Chi-com.

SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronavirus pose threat for human emergence
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

New SARS-like virus can jump directly from bats to humans, no treatment available
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151110115711.
https://web.archive.org/web/20151115003432/http://www.sciencedaily.com:80/releases/2015/11/151110115711.htm

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) proteins of different bat species confer variable susceptibility to SARS-CoV entry
“”and tested their interactions with human SARS-CoV spike protein using both HIV-based pseudotype and live SARS-CoV infection assays.””
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00705-010-0729-6

Top 10 Reasons To Believe the Wuhan Virology Lab Caused 2019-nCoV
https://listverse.com/2020/03/20/top-10-reasons-to-believe-the-wuhan-virology-lab-caused-2019-ncov/

Well, seems some other people knew where to go with that:
“A Harvard Professor, The DOD & NIH, A Chinese Spy, 21 Stolen Vials Of “Biological Research”, & Nanoscience

https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/connecting-dots-harvard-the-nih-dod-chinese-spies-21-stolen-vials-of-biological-research-nano-bioelectronics/

Links to the DOJ arrest and search for the missing Chinese woman whose name is on the original medical papers as being part of the team who created the virus

Note the wording; “ ...we generated and characterized a chimeric virus.” She didn’t just study it, she generated it.

“Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

This is more than a flu.

Trump would not be doing what he has done for a flu.

What it is, I dunno, maybe just a bad flu, but the Chinese went full martial law to contain it, and entire countries are quarantining themselves over it, and the democrats are willing to destroy the USA to let it in.


Read the names.
Le is one of the original people listed as being part of altering a Corona Virus
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238701550236774400.html

From a poster on Instapundit:
Herschel Smith Katybuzz

Oh, it was engineered alright. At UNC-Chapel Hill, with the assistance of a Chi-com.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151110115711.htm

Note the wording; “ ...we generated and characterized a chimeric virus.” She didn’t just study it, she generated it.


old article, but this was intelligence gathered by Taiwan in 2008, they believe that SARS came from the same city, Wuhan, and COVID-19

https://www.smh.com.au/world/sars-a-chinese-weapon-taiwan-official-20081007-4vse.html


The “plan”
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

—Explanation of the “plan”—start at ten minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmhsNdW24BM

—The states
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18oVRrHj3c183mHmq3m89_163yuYltLNlOmPerQ18E8w/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true#

Use the tabs to navigate—the “states” tabs has links to the state’s websites for latest updates
—The world
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries


“Coronavirus may cause testicular damage, male infertility, research finds”

it may have been a bioweapon. Eliminate over 50’s with illness/lack of ICU availability and sterilize the youngsters. population replacement possible within 2 generations.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182389.shtml


Is the corona virus a bio-weapon?
THIS IS A MUST READ!
https://teletype.in/@adrianbond/Bg361tQU



391 posted on 03/22/2020 4:25:35 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for)
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To: calenel

but in Wuhan, the Chinese government literally tore up the roads and put a military cordon around the city to enforce the quarantine

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the 49 crematoriums and 40 industrial furnaces going 24/7 helped clean up the other problem

And there is no way that the problem is over in China - cases are unwanted politically, but ONE Wuhan hospital, two days ago, did manage to report 200 cases ...


392 posted on 03/22/2020 4:33:19 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: calenel

No it wasn’t and the dying began then too.


393 posted on 03/22/2020 4:34:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: calenel

Need is for ventilators and associated machinery - have 60,000 need 10 times that, else Italy


394 posted on 03/22/2020 4:37:21 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RummyChick

the Chinese pioneered the use of bras ...


395 posted on 03/22/2020 4:39:00 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: scouter

As more and more people are infected, it will become harder for the virus to find an uninfected victim


there are many reports of re-infections since no immunities are developed - usual re-infection ends in organ collapse


396 posted on 03/22/2020 5:35:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PA Engineer

There was a loud minority who sided with Hitler after Pearl Harbor.


The German-American Bund which began in 1936 - long before Pearl. They were a majority in sates like Wisconsin where English was seldom spoken at the time - stores often had signs reading, “English Spoken Here”.


397 posted on 03/22/2020 5:39:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: scouter

Re-infection deaths from organ failure are reported as heart attacks and so on with no mention of previous issues.


398 posted on 03/22/2020 5:40:49 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Black Agnes

Don’t worry those 70 ton babies are just returning from overseas and being deployed to bases that have mechanized units. Take a mint. Relax.


399 posted on 03/22/2020 5:43:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: calenel

Canadian military, IIRC, ballpark 40k.

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that was before they downsized ... both Generals are pleased with the wise Trudeau family


400 posted on 03/22/2020 5:47:04 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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