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Stanford Professor Suggests We Are Severely Overreacting To Coronavirus
NewsPushed ^ | 03-20-20 | David Lindfield

Posted on 03/20/2020 4:27:29 PM PDT by Steve1999

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To: Does so
Testing should have started from “day one”—everything else as data can’t be compared.

Testing isn't as useful as it might appear unless it is being used to detect and isolate pre-symptomatic people who are suspected to have been infected.

Surveillance testing doesn't tell you a lot of useful information if a disease is highly contagious. A healthy person tested as non-infected could get infected an hour later when they touch their nose after touching the doorknob on the way out of the clinic, or when the person next to them coughs on them.

41 posted on 03/20/2020 5:55:25 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: FreedomIsTheFreedomToSay2+2=4

You need to see this newbie JR

C33


42 posted on 03/20/2020 6:02:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: freeandfreezing

“There are other scenarios.”

Yup, and your ridiculous example is not the only one.


43 posted on 03/20/2020 6:09:09 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Java4Jay

Its already worse. Millions lost jobs, economy in crapper, all Trump’s good undone as the Left celebrates and prepared us for President Biden. Mission accomplished


44 posted on 03/20/2020 7:01:16 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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Tracking the Coronavirus:
How Crowded Asian Cities Tackle an Epidemic (Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan) New York Times ^ | March 17 2020 | Hanna Beech Posted on 3/17/2020, 10:16:30 PM by rintintin
Two hours. That’s all the time medical teams in Singapore are given to uncover the first details of how patients contracted the coronavirus and which people they might infect.

The NYS (slimes) did not go into what Singapore was doing but these postings do and explain what and how it was doing which is well worth a look.


post #7
I don’t know if there is a “Trump sucks” angle, but my sister in law lives in Singapore. This is for real. They have people assigned at entrances with hand held infra-red heat guns. She said she was scanned 5 times just today. Anyo e who get hot they are inquisition to find out who they have been with? How long they felt like this? If they ever coughed in public do. Wwho? Their shelves in stores are full and there is no pani, from what she says. This is a very effective and organized way to handle the crisis. This is Priminister Lee speech to Singapore population on what they learned from the Sars outbreak to deal with this. Trump (and I love him) could learn a lot from Singapore.
7 posted on 3/17/2020, 10:40:11 PM by Bommer


My brother is living and working in Singapore. Has to get scanned several times a day.I was telling people that they could scan a crowd and see who is hot and cull that person. I’m not sure why NYC etc is not using this technology 19 posted on 3/18/2020, 12:14:56 AM by tinamina \

Here’s another detailed posting from another site http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3825906/posts#40

Jackson MI Nose swab tests http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3824844/posts


45 posted on 03/20/2020 7:16:01 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: Vermont Lt
Pretty much he has been saying what a lot of people are saying, “the lack of consistent testing screwed everything up.”

That wasn't his primary point.

His main point was that COVID-19's fatality rate is likely to be flu-like.

46 posted on 03/20/2020 7:54:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Does so
Absolutely right. Testing should have started from “day one”—everything else as data can’t be compared. CDC should have been on top of this.

The fatality rate in the US will not be like the fatality rate in Italy.

The author isn't comparing the U.S. to Italy. And his primary point isn't about the CDC screw-up of the testing.

Read the full article.

47 posted on 03/20/2020 7:57:52 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: soundapproach
Sure, it may transmit much faster but is otherwise no more if not less deadly.

Yup.

48 posted on 03/20/2020 7:59:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Steve1999

He is right


49 posted on 03/20/2020 8:00:24 PM PDT by dila813
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To: SoCal Pubbie
So are you saying that the current market crash would not have happened if nobody did anything about the COVID-19 epidemic around the world but burn or bury the bodies?

Given that markets around the world have crashed before the epidemic got very far at all it is highly likely that they would crash if the epidemic got worse.

But you can show us all how much you know, just start trading in the market and let us all know how it turns out.

50 posted on 03/20/2020 8:36:04 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Why do people like you create strawman arguments by putting words in other people’s mouths? You can’t envision a response that includes many of the current measures without the draconian one size fits all prescription? Like mandating closing retirement homes and caregiving facilities to visitors, mandating work from home solutions where possible, massive media outreach to educate the public on health risks for given demographics, closing the borders and ports to cruise ships, etc. Sure the economy would have taken a hit but it didn’t have to be fatal. Instead they’ve flat pulled the plug and are digging a multi-trillion dollar hole.


51 posted on 03/20/2020 9:12:17 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I can envision all kinds of strategies, and even calculate the probability of them working in certain situations.

Many of the rapid shifts in the market are more linked to an overheated, extended bull run built on debt and stock buy backs than just the short term steps taken to avoid a potentially high epidemic case load.

There are endless reports of businesses that will fail in days, but any business running that close to the edge is either under capitalized or over leveraged or has insufficient margins - or all three.

Trying to avoid a very high caseload seems like a smart idea, even if it causes a temporary disruption.

52 posted on 03/20/2020 9:20:46 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

“but any business running that close to the edge is either under capitalized or over leveraged or has insufficient margins - or all three.”

freeandfreezing

“I can’t be responsible for every undercapitalized entrepreneur in America.”

Hillary Clinton

The biggest losers are going to be small and midsized companies that don’t even list any stock on the exchanges.


53 posted on 03/20/2020 9:25:47 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Steve1999

Gee, do ya think? There are simply to many emotion decision makers out there and to many of them are in government.

JoMa


54 posted on 03/21/2020 1:00:02 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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To: patriotfury

“...Whether it really worked or not, by the second half of 2015, Moscow was quietly putting in place an attempt to inoc, or strengthen the majority of its population against against CV-19....”

Bears repeating!


55 posted on 03/21/2020 2:09:17 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: FreeReign

“Read the full article.”

Do WHAT?

==8-0


56 posted on 03/21/2020 4:09:26 AM PDT by Does so (Call it the CCP-virus...The Corona-virus dies in sunlight!)
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To: Cold Heart

Cold Heart wrote:

“Biomerica has a ten minute test for the virus which does not need a laboratory setting to test. $10. They are shipping it overseas but have not yet gotten emergency approval to use it here.”

Have you a link to this?


57 posted on 03/21/2020 5:01:01 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: freeandfreezing
There are endless reports of businesses that will fail in days, but any business running that close to the edge is either under capitalized or over leveraged or has insufficient margins - or all three.

Really? So how long should a business stay closed and be able survive? All the while closed still having to pay their employees and other necessary expenses?

Trying to avoid a very high caseload seems like a smart idea, even if it causes a temporary disruption.

"Temporary disruption"? LOL

58 posted on 03/21/2020 5:10:41 AM PDT by Fury
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To: WildHighlander57

I heard it on FOX Business, Varney. You could probably find something in a search.


59 posted on 03/21/2020 7:24:46 AM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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TRUMP needs to put JOHN IONNIDIS front & center at his next press conference. This guy actually has training, expertise, & knows wth he’s talking about.

Here’s another, more detailed item, same subject:PANIC BASED ON BAD DATA

https://www.thecollegefix.com/stanford-epidemiologist-warns-that-coronavirus-crackdown-is-based-on-bad-data/


60 posted on 03/21/2020 9:31:58 AM PDT by mumblypeg
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