Posted on 03/18/2020 4:48:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
A statue of the Angel Moroni sits atop the Salt Lake Temple in a 2015 photo. The temple was damaged Wednesday in an earthquake that also dislodged Moroni's trumpet.
(CNN)The 5.7-magnitude earthquake that shook Utah Wednesday morning also dislodged a symbolic part of Salt Lake City's iconic Mormon temple: the trumpet of an angel statue atop its highest spire.
The temple is the spiritual focal point for the 16 million members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
"The trumpet on the Angel Moroni statue fell off, and there is minor displacement of some of the temple's smaller spire stones," said Daniel Woodruff, a spokesman for the church.
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I asked you specific questions, referencing specific LDS writings, which you said you would answer.
You refused, which seems very dishonest.
I would ask kindly that you stop printing the truly blasphemous and vile comments you relate to LDS Doctrine that you will find exactly nowhere in the four volumes of scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ or in books printed by the Church.
I would suggest at the very least that you use techniques utilized by Elsie from books, scripture and quotes of in some cases long dead members to make your point. Posting those things you have, heaven and yourself only know where you find them, but you will not find them as written anywhere in any Church published or approved source.
You might also contemplate reducing the number of times outside of scriptural references that you abuse the name of your Creator and His Father.
Seems simple enough for me bro. But then again, non believers have to deal with this pesky little issue of 1 Corinthians 2:14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Cult members can’t possibly understand. I know, I was once a cult member myself. I didn’t grasp spiritual issues either, till I left the cult and the Holy Spirit enlightened me. These days, I just don’t deal well with cults. 😁
Well ya just never know when the tip of Christ’s sandal might be allowed to cross the heart’s threshold and what verses will be the key....one does what one can, otherwise....
An attempt at syncretism....how cute...
Dishonest cult placemarker
Man! You did. I understood parts, but some of it made my eyes glaze over!
Sorry .... I get a little lost in your ramblings. Which LDS scripture did you ask about?
I’m curious, do you agree with the Roman Emperor Theodosius that all Christians that do not believe in the Nicene Creed should be executed?
It’s an honest question, since your tone comes across as extremely hate-filled.
I had to look up ‘syncretism’.
Having different biblical interpretations and understandings are inevitable.
But alas ... what will you do if you learn the Christ does not conform to your exact particular interpretations? Would you trot him to a hill and crucify him? I get the feeling that you wouldn’t mind crucifying me!
btw ... I gave you another biblical interpretation that does not conflict with the Bible ... it just conflicts with your interpretation of the Bible.
Most of my views are similar to tracts written by Origen and Tertullian .... they are neither new or unique but have been around for 2000 years.
Those that came up with your particular interpretations were not prophets but the Christian equivalent of Scribes and Pharasees from Christ’s time. Basically interpreting God’s laws and demanding that only their interpretation is valid. When Christ disagreed .... they demanded his execution.
“ Sorry .... I get a little lost in your ramblings. Which LDS scripture did you ask about?”
That statement sounds so dishonest.
You specifically said you are so busy, you would answer questions about your LDS writings.
I immediately gave you a list citing your religion’s writings.
You refused to answer them all.
Frankly, it now seems you don’t have any answers.
That’s fine to not know the answers to difficult questions - or even to plug your ears and refuse to answer them.
To violate ones word is never OK.
Whatever you profess yourself is irrelevant, for you are defending Mormonism, and I already have already substantiated the beliefs I list, and they were ignored, so what should take more time and energy with you?
I would appreciate it if you would stop slandering God, the Father of Jesus Christ.
Yes you should, or else.
Never fear bro. As a former air traffic controller myself, and my son, being an Air Force pilot trainee, you can best believe, we understand it all perfectly. 👍😆😁
Glad you both and so many others understand that stuff!
“ I don’t think there is even ONE Mormon doctrine I agree with. Not one. ”
How could you, since you actually believe scripture??
“ The God of Mormonism, is not the God of the Bible.”
Which of the millions or billions of mormonic gods do you refer to??
So there is the deceptive post again.
THIS one??
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Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. (Alma 11:28-29) ...and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil. (Alma 11:44)
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ALMA Chapter 11 The Nephite monetary system is set forth—Amulek contends with Zeezrom—Christ will not save people in their sins—Only those who inherit the kingdom of heaven are saved—All men will rise in immortality—There is no death after the Resurrection. About 82 B.C.
1 Now it was in the law of Mosiah that every man who was a judge of the law, or those who were appointed to be judges,should receive awages baccording to the time which they labored to judge those who were brought before them to be judged. 2 Now if a man owed another, and he would not apay that which he did owe, he was complained of to the judge; and the judge executed authority, and sent forth officers that the man should be brought before him; and he judged the man according to the law and the evidences which were brought against him, and thus the man was compelled to pay that which he owed, or be stripped, or be cast out from among the people as a thief and a robber. 3 And the judge received for his wages aaccording to his time—a bsenine of gold for a day, or a senum of silver, which is equal to a senine of gold; and this is according to the law which was given. 4 Now these are the names of the different pieces of their gold, and of their silver, according to their value. And the names are given by the Nephites, for they did not reckon after the amanner of the Jews who were at Jerusalem; neither did they measure after the manner of the Jews; but they altered their reckoning and their measure, according to the minds and the circumstances of the people, in every generation, until the reign of the judges, they having been bestablished by king Mosiah. 5 Now the reckoning is thus—a senine of gold, a seon of gold, a shum of gold, and a limnah of gold. 6 A senum of silver, an amnor of silver, an ezrom of silver, and an onti of silver. 7 A senum of silver was equal to a senine of gold, and either for a measure of barley, and also for a measure of every kind of grain. 8 Now the amount of a seon of gold was twice the value of a senine. 9 And a shum of gold was twice the value of a seon. 10 And a limnah of gold was the value of them all. 11 And an amnor of silver was as great as two senums. 12 And an ezrom of silver was as great as four senums. 13 And an onti was as great as them all. 14 Now this is the value of the lesser numbers of their reckoning— 15 A shiblon is half of a senum; therefore, a shiblon for half a measure of barley. 16 And a shiblum is a half of a shiblon. 17 And a leah is the half of a shiblum. 18 Now this is their number, according to their reckoning. 19 Now an antion of gold is equal to three shiblons. 20 Now, it was for the sole purpose to get again, because they received their wages according to their bemploy, therefore, they did cstir up the people to driotings, and all manner of disturbances and wickedness, that they might have more employ, that they might eget fmoney according to the suits which were brought before them; therefore they did stir up the people against Alma and Amulek. 21 And this Zeezrom began to question Amulek, saying: Will ye answer me a few questions which I shall ask you? Now Zeezrom was a man who was aexpert in the bdevices of the devil, that he might destroy that which was good; therefore, he said unto Amulek: Will ye answer the questions which I shall put unto you? 22 And Amulek said unto him: Yea, if it be according to the aSpirit of the Lord, which is in me; for I shall say nothing which is contrary to the Spirit of the Lord. And Zeezrom said unto him: Behold, here are six onties of silver, and all these will I bgive thee if thou wilt deny the existence of a Supreme Being. 23 Now Amulek said: O thou achild of hell, why btempt ye me? Knowest thou that the righteous yieldeth to no such temptations? 24 Believest thou that there is no God? I say unto you, Nay, thou knowest that there is a God, but thou lovest that alucre more than him. 25 And now thou hast lied before God unto me. Thou saidst unto me—Behold these six onties, which are of great worth, I will give unto thee—when thou hadst it in thy heart to retain them from me; and it was only thy desire that I should deny the true and living God, that thou mightest have cause to destroy me. And now behold, for this great evil thou shalt have thy reward. 26 And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? 27 And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. 28 Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? 29 And he answered, No. 30 Now Zeezrom said unto him again: How knowest thou these things? 31 And he said: An aangel hath made them known unto me. 32 And Zeezrom said again: Who is he that shall come? Is it the Son of God? 33 And he said unto him, Yea. 34 And Zeezrom said again: Shall he save his people ain their sins? And Amulek answered and said unto him: I say unto you he shall not, for it is impossible for him to deny his word. 35 Now Zeezrom said unto the people: See that ye remember these things; for he said there is but one God; yet he saith that the Son of God shall come, but he shall anot save his people—as though he had authority to command God. 36 Now Amulek saith again unto him: Behold thou hast alied, for thou sayest that I spake as though I had authority to command God because I said he shall not save his people in their sins. 37 And I say unto you again that he cannot save them in their asins; for I cannot deny his word, and he hath said that bno unclean thing can inherit the ckingdom of heaven; therefore, how can ye be saved, except ye inherit the kingdom of heaven? Therefore, ye cannot be saved in your sins. 38 Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father? 39 And Amulek said unto him: Yea, he is the very aEternal Father of heaven and of earth, and ball things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last; 40 And he shall come into the aworld to bredeem his people; and he shall ctake upon him the transgressions of those who believe on his name; and these are they that shall have eternal life, and salvation cometh to none else. 41 Therefore the wicked remain as though there had been ano redemption made, except it be the loosing of the bands of death; for behold, the day cometh that ball shall rise from the dead and stand before God, and be cjudged according to their works. 42 Now, there is a death which is called a temporal death; and the death of Christ shall loose the abands of this temporal death, that all shall be raised from this temporal death. 43 The spirit and the body shall be areunited again in its bperfect form; both limb and joint shall be restored to its proper frame, even as we now are at this time; and we shall be brought to stand before God, cknowing even as we know now, and have a bright drecollection of all our eguilt. 44 Now, this restoration shall come to all, both old and young, both bond and free, both male and female, both the wicked and the righteous; and even there shall not so much as a hair of their heads be lost; but every thing shall be arestored to its perfect frame, as it is now, or in the body, and shall be brought and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the bFather, and the Holy Spirit, which is cone Eternal God, to be djudged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil. 45 Now, behold, I have spoken unto you concerning the adeath of the mortal body, and also concerning the bresurrection of the mortal body. I say unto you that this mortal body is craised to an dimmortal body, that is from death, even from the first death unto life, that they can edie no more; their spirits uniting with their bodies, never to be divided; thus the whole becoming fspiritual and immortal, that they can no more see corruption. 46 Now, when Amulek had finished these words the people began again to be astonished, and also Zeezrom began to tremble. And thus ended the words of Amulek, or this is all that I have written. |
All of them, I suppose, but especially the one God, who used to be a man (Adam) I am also, not fond of the Mormon Jesus, the spirit brother of Satan. That doesn’t sit well with me.
I am also curious, as to how Mormons can reconcile the fact that Adam was a sinner, and now a god? That doesn’t compute. God was a sinner? I don’t think so. I am just not into evil cults, so I am not into Mormonism. Not in this lifetime. Not in this eternity. 👎
It's so sad and evil, it is laughable. Laughable that anyone believes this...
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