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Utah earthquake damages Mormon temple and knocks trumpet from iconic angel statue
CNN ^ | 1:08 PM ET, Wed March 18, 2020 | Daniel Burke

Posted on 03/18/2020 4:48:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

A statue of the Angel Moroni sits atop the Salt Lake Temple in a 2015 photo. The temple was damaged Wednesday in an earthquake that also dislodged Moroni's trumpet.

(CNN)The 5.7-magnitude earthquake that shook Utah Wednesday morning also dislodged a symbolic part of Salt Lake City's iconic Mormon temple: the trumpet of an angel statue atop its highest spire.

The temple is the spiritual focal point for the 16 million members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"The trumpet on the Angel Moroni statue fell off, and there is minor displacement of some of the temple's smaller spire stones," said Daniel Woodruff, a spokesman for the church.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: cults; lds; miltromley; mormon; mormonic; portent; trumpets; utah
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I almost forgot bro. It is my opinion, though I am not totally dogmatic on it, but I don’t think one can be saved, without believing in the Trinity. I couldn’t care less what century anyone claims it came from. 😁
161 posted on 03/24/2020 2:50:37 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, 2/3 of the way through USAF pilot training. One more aircraft to fly)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Elsie, you know the whole shamwow religion is built on feelings...

I know that it is NOT built upon knowledge; or a sincere LOOKING for truth!

Many other Christians know very little about Mormonism; or even false teachings in general.

Considering all the things written in the NT about them; I'd think that a Christian would want to expose them; too.

It seems that many have gotten the idea that, "Well; I've made it; let them find Jesus on their own'"

162 posted on 03/24/2020 4:56:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17; aMorePerfectUnion

It goes without saying that the only Jesus who can save you is the One found in Scripture.

Not some fabricated being who doesn’t fulfill prophecy (virgin born) and is the half-brother of Lucifer (aka Satan).

Not to mention that their God the Father was allegedly once a man who attained godhood, ooops there goes eternal, without BEGINNING or end.


163 posted on 03/24/2020 5:04:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mark17
Kolob Canyons

Kolob Arch, the world's second longest arch, is a landmark of this area.

The trail to the Kolob Arch is a 14 hour round-trip hike, ending at a free standing arch.
Kolob Arch measures 287.4 ', making it about three feet shorter than the world's longest arch, the fragile Landscape Arch.

Hiking in Zion National Park


 

164 posted on 03/24/2020 5:10:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17; teppe; Normandy; fproy2222
They are trained (indoctrinated is too strong a word) to have a 'testimony' about the Book of MORMON; claiming to KNOW that it is TRUE.


I find this strange since most of the LDS doctrine is NOT found in the BoM; but in their OTHER scripture; The Doctrines & Covenants.

Why don't they ever get a 'testimony' about THAT?

165 posted on 03/24/2020 5:13:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
BTW: Don’t rely on Elsie ...I sure wouldn't want ANYONE to do so.

Just make sure that YOU rely on the words your chosen religion teaches!

166 posted on 03/24/2020 5:15:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Gee whiz Els, there must be a ton of Mormons in that area. 😁
167 posted on 03/24/2020 5:19:18 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, 2/3 of the way through USAF pilot training. One more aircraft to fly)
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To: teppe
Maybe you two should get together for a mystery morphing vacation.....

Great is the mystery of the Lamanite homelands...


But!!!


When we are finally ALLOWED out of our homes by our benevolent government; we can actually GO on a 'vacation', instead of a STAYcation!

https://www.google.com/search?q=mormon+tours+to+mayan&ie=&oe=

168 posted on 03/24/2020 5:19:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Jeff Head; teppe
Sorry teppe, but how many gods are there in Mormon belief?

A few years ago...


 
 

Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically.

He calls Him Father, He prays to Him.
We are to pray to Him, God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, His Son.
God’s voice was heard at Christ’s baptism, coming from Heaven while He was in the water. The Holy Sirit also descended.
 Three seperate entities/Gods.

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Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:32:46 AM · 416 of 492
Jeff Head to stpio
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2881113/replies?c=416

169 posted on 03/24/2020 5:22:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
...the Book of Mormon IS a myth.

How DARE you prattle ELSIE's jabberings for him!

Next thing you know you'll be claiming that this battle NEVER occurred!!

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/ether/15

 

 I just KNOW that the Book of MORMON is TRUE!!!!


Ether 14:22
And so swift and speedy was the war that there was none left to bury the dead, but they did march forth from the shedding of blood to the shedding of blood, leaving the bodies of both men, women, and children strewed upon the face of the land, to become a prey to the worms of the flesh.

 

 

666 posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 8:30:28 AM --Mormon_Dude(Hail Joseph Smith!!!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

170 posted on 03/24/2020 5:33:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
They are trained (indoctrinated is too strong a word) to have a 'testimony' about the Book of MORMON; claiming to KNOW that it is TRUE.

Have you ever been told by a Mormon, to experience a burning in your bosom, that the Book of M is true? I have news for them. That burning in my bosom, was indigestion. I STILL don’t accept the Book of M. 👎

171 posted on 03/24/2020 5:34:09 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, 2/3 of the way through USAF pilot training. One more aircraft to fly)
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To: teppe
Your only weapon is Fake News.



  

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 14

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to David Whitmer, at Fayette, New York, June 1829. The Whitmer family had become greatly interested in the translating of the Book of Mormon. The Prophet established his residence at the home of Peter Whitmer Sr., where he dwelt until the work of translation was carried to completion and the copyright on the forthcoming book was secured. Three of the Whitmer sons, each having received a testimony as to the genuineness of the work, became deeply concerned over the matter of their individual duty. This revelation and the two following (sections 15 and 16) were given in answer to an inquiry through the Urim and Thummim. David Whitmer later became one of the Three Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

Section 15

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to John Whitmer, at Fayette, New York, June 1829 (see the heading to section 14).
 
 The message is intimately and impressively personal in that the Lord tells of what was known only to John Whitmer and Himself.
 
 John Whitmer later became one of the Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

1–2, The Lord’s arm is over all the earth; 3–6, To preach the gospel and save souls is the thing of most worth.

 

 Hearken, my servant John, and listen to the words of Jesus Christ, your Lord and your Redeemer.

 For behold, I speak unto you with sharpness and with power, for mine arm is over all the earth.

 And I will tell you that which no man knoweth save me and thee alone

 For many times you have desired of me to know that which would be of the most worth unto you.

 Behold, blessed are you for this thing, and for speaking my words which I have given unto you according to my commandments.

 And now, behold, I say unto you, that the thing which will be of the most worth unto you will be to declare repentance unto this people, that you may bring souls unto me, that you may rest with them in the kingdom of my Father. Amen.  

Section 16

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet to Peter Whitmer Jr., at Fayette, New York, June 1829 (see the heading to section 14).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Peter Whitmer Jr.  later became one of the Eight Witnesses to the Book of Mormon.

1–2, The Lord’s arm is over all the earth; 3–6, To preach the gospel and save souls is the thing of most worth.

 

Hearken, my servant Peter, and listen to the words of Jesus Christ, your Lord and your Redeemer.

 For behold, I speak unto you with sharpness and with power, for mine arm is over all the earth.

 And I will tell you that which no man knoweth save me and thee alone

 For many times you have desired of me to know that which would be of the most worth unto you.

 Behold, blessed are you for this thing, and for speaking my words which I have given unto you according to my commandments.

 And now, behold, I say unto you, that the thing which will be of the most worth unto you will be to declare repentance unto this people, that you may bring souls unto me, that you may rest with them in the kingdom of my Father. Amen.

 

 

 
 
 
And it came to pass that GOD said:
 
"Sorry about the duplicate.  Pete just slipped my mind.
Just forget that 'and thee alone' thing."

172 posted on 03/24/2020 5:37:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
The doubts involved with leaving one place of presumed safety and going to another; though unknown one; are great.

But; there WILL come a time when one must either step into the water or not.


Joshua 3


 

On the first Sunday service of every month, the faithful are invited to “bear testimonies”—share their convictions—from the pulpit. Some smile cheerfully and say “Good morning, brothers and sisters”; others, overcome with spiritual emotion, start sobbing before they so much as adjust the mic. What typically follows in either case is a series of knowledge claims, for example: “I’d like to bear my testimony. I know this church is true. I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet. I know that Gordon B. Hinckley”—the prophet for most of my youth—“is a prophet today.” The testimony-bearers always conclude with “In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.” The congregation always echoes: “Amen.”

My family attended church almost unfailingly, so I was very familiar with this ritual as a kid. Over time I noticed that testimony-bearers tended to use the same cadence and intonation when they spoke. The words “I’d like to bear my testimony; I know this church is true,” which were always said in a particular way, seemed to be wearing a deep groove into my brain. I wasn’t very old before I came to dislike testimony meetings. I couldn’t bear to see adults cry in front of other adults. One especially excruciating testimony stands out in my memory: an old woman tearfully described how she had prayed for relief for the puss-filled spider bite on her cheek. Thankfully, the swelling went down—evidence, she thought, of God’s concern for her.

Sometimes when the weepy ones started, I would rest my forehead on the pew in front of me and wait for them to finish unbosoming. My mom would tap me on the shoulder and tell me to sit up straight. I might have silently prayed for God to hurry one or two of them along. The “testimonies” of the young children, the smallest of whom could barely speak, disturbed me more. Sometimes kids would go to the pulpit themselves. In other cases, parents carried them to the pulpit, held them up to the microphone and whispered words in their ears, which they repeated: “I’d like to bear my testimony; I know this church is true” in that same cadence. This was common though the church leadership officially frowned on it. The congregation seemed to find it adorable. But did they, or anyone, believe that young children were in a position to testify to us?

https://quillette.com/2019/05/13/bearing-witness-my-story-out-of-mormonism/

173 posted on 03/24/2020 5:56:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER THIS BASIC BIBLICAL QUESTION BECAUSE ..... YOU CAN’T.

Perhaps; if you'd share your testimony with us; we could see the error of our ways.

Show us; from the book of MORMON that you claim (don't you?) is true; how our non-biblical Tri-une God is revealed as faulty in IT'S pages?

174 posted on 03/24/2020 6:01:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
It goes without saying that the only Jesus who can save you is the One found in Scripture.

You are correct MM. Each cult, has its own false Jesus, like the Mormon Jesus you mentioned. It’s a Jesus who does not exist. They preach a different gospel, with a different Jesus. The Apostle Paul had some really hostile words for the many cults who do this, in Galatians 1:8, “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.” Why should we think of them any differently than Paul did?
Again, nice, good hearted people, but their religion is NO GOOD. 👎

175 posted on 03/24/2020 6:02:24 AM PDT by Mark17 (Father of US Air Force Officer, 2/3 of the way through USAF pilot training. One more aircraft to fly)
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To: teppe
dear teppe,

I answered your two rainman questions back in post #142.

There is not need to continually ask the same thing.

Here is a copy of that post that contains your answers...

“ Is it true that you actually have no idea how to defend your own beliefs??? .... only to destroy other peoples belief in Christ?”

I believe the Scriptures, which are inspired by God, and not an event in history, or a Lying Prophet.
“ Lets try again: John 17”

There you go again teppe. This is really all you have, isn’t it?

The doctrine of the Trinity doesn’t come from this passage, but it doesn’t sound like you understand that.

“ The Doctrine of the Trinity is 1600 year old FAKE NEWS! The real culprit of your belief is the Roman Emperor Julian the Apostate who rescued the Nicene Creed from the dustbin of history.

I sat next to a street person the other day at B&N, who kept blurting out conspiracy theories, over and over and over - to herself. She needed help.

Your posts are becoming the ramblings of a FR street-person, teppe.

You have two points you continually blurt out, and none of us know why, since they don’t relate to what Christians believe.

But FRiend, you keep doing it. Please, for your sake, just pause and actually learn where Christian believers derive the theology of our triune God. Then you could discuss it rationally.

But keep in mind, that if you ever begin to ask questions about truth, you may come to know the Real Christ. It will be difficult to face up to the lies of mormonism FRiend.

To save time in the future, if you should blurt out these two mormon talking points, I will simply paste a link to that post.

176 posted on 03/24/2020 6:02:42 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17; teppe
Eh, no big deal to be accused by someone in a cult.

Being a lightening rod is easy, when you are well grounded in God's Word.

And did you notice that teppe failed to answer any of the questions I posted??

I refer to these questions:

Sorry teppe, but how many gods are there in Mormon belief?

If there is more than one, how can they all be sovereign?

Is there eternal polygamy?

Where do the Mormon gods go for spring break? Kolob Beach?

Are their wives not gods?

Are their polygamous wives gods too, or just breeding stock?

Did your Heavenly Father used to be Adam, who later became god? Was it another human?

Since the Bibical God existed always in eternity, why didn’t any of your moronic gods?

Did your Mormon Jesus start as a man and later become a god?

And your Mormon hoy ghost, why didn’t he get a body?is he a god?

Start there...

Can you blame teppe for answering? It's a very embarrassing religion, once you look under the magic underwear.

177 posted on 03/24/2020 6:06:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17
I think I've read that about 62% of so of those that live in Utah have some type of affiliation with TCOJCOLDS. As for the town of Moab; which is just across the river from ARCHES NP; I think it has been over run with ex-pats from California; most of whom would NOT be Mormon.

https://www.discovermoab.com/churches/

178 posted on 03/24/2020 6:09:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
Have you ever been told by a Mormon, to experience a burning in your bosom, that the Book of M is true?

No; they never quite seem to get that far.

They are trained to play on the offense.

they really can't resist a strong defense at all.

179 posted on 03/24/2020 6:11:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
There is not need to continually ask the same thing.

When your only tool is a hammer; you tend to think everything you pound is a nail.

180 posted on 03/24/2020 6:13:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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