https://twitter.com/KashifMD/status/1239396389085499393
Posted on 03/17/2020 8:36:27 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #18 is here:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3825150/posts?page=1
So the question becomes, how many infected people for how many days in a closed-ventilated grocery store will it take to cover everything in the store with virions, including the floor and the ceiling?
Agree. Studies coming out now showing that:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3825446/posts?page=665#665
I think it important to point out that heat has a damaging effect on the virus.
Since you re making ‘real world’ decisions.
Fresh air is good too. No doubt.
Find a balance.
“It is the vents. The virus loves vents...Any enclosed space will just keep circulating and recirculating the virus, whether it is an airplane, a ship, a nursing home, a hospital, etc...In the case of a hospital, the staff puts on all their gear, safely interacts with the patients, then takes off their gear to snack and drink coffee in the lunch room.”
Makes sense to me!
Probably not.
But that really doesn’t matter, in terms of how to mitigate it.
Given that whatever ancestor to COVID-19 had many quadrillions*, if not more, tries at mutating into something that might be rather more troublesome than a cold, Mo’ Nature was likely to “get it right”** sooner or later.
*If you get the flu, your body is riddled with something like 100 TRILLION virus particles. All looking for a better way to do things.**
**Higher infectiousness is “better”. Killing the host is sort of a “mistake”. However - my Dad did a lot of work in (plant) genetics: Most mutations are benign or mildly harmful to the mutating entity. COVID-19 is most like a cold coronavirus (quite infectious) that “made a bit of a mistake.”
https://twitter.com/KashifMD/status/1239396389085499393
“I’ve had my HVAC off for about a month now. Down here in Georgia, it’s warming up but still gets cold on some days...That’s when I put on more clothes. I don’t want the virus sucked in from my neighbors - who are still going to work everyday! - and taking up residence in my AC filters and vents, etc.”
I do think the amount of the virus that you might pick up from outdoor air will be far less than what can infect virtually anyone. Partly because air conditioning systems introduce very little new outside air...at least for central systems. (all the air you see blowing outside, stays outside)
There you go. And it’s obvious from the spraying videos we saw that China knew this a while ago.
Again, if the release of this virus in China was not an act of biowarfare, the continued Chinese silence about how to clean up the effects of the virus surely is.
Is it cold in Manila these days? Or the Middle East?
Can we just admit we don’t know. This stating shit as if it were fact, when there are such glaring facts opposing it is just wrong.
This is not the flu. It is completely new and different virus. So please stop making definitive statements like that.
Well if this is the case, we would begin to see inordinate infections in cashiers and workers, right?
Nursing homes stopped using that stuff after legionnaires disease. Their air systems are better filtered than most homes.
It’s in cool vents
Warm/hot vents are disadvantageous to it.
“I think the virus loves a closed system of circulating air, whether heated or cooled.”
I see your point, but the virus still has to get into those systems, and unlike Legionnaires Disease (which is a bacteria), this is a virus, and thus cannot reproduce (or replicate) without a host...whereas a bacteria can definitely reproduce without any outside help.
Not good....
New York state coronavirus cases soar to about 1,700, hospitalizing 19%
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3825640/posts?page=12#25
A higher hospitalization %, than what’s been averaging :(
Very few places on earth are that hot.
It’s not the heat, it’s UV light. In summer there is more UV light, longer.
It’s not the cold. It’s the fact that people are in much closer contact without the windows open when it’s cold.
No.
All studies show it’s affected by temps.
They may not be on point to my arguments though.
But temps matter to the virus.
Even though my neighbor’s driveway is less than 10 feet away from my own, and that she has a hacking cough, and that she told me that her coworker returned recently from Spain and went home sick, I can be sure I can’t get the virus in my HVAC from her?
Will you guarantee it?
Which studies?
Or are you comparing it to the influenza virus?
Wrong virus.
Again, this thing is all over the equator. Look at a map.
I continue to believe circulating levels of D3 have something to do with it as well.
Higher the further south you go and higher between the equinoxes everywhere.
‘Google’ “Covid tempersature”.
There’s no doubt covid likes the cool.
I admit it’s an open question what that matters.
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