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Coronavirus Live Thread. No 12
3/8/2020

Posted on 03/08/2020 3:05:23 PM PDT by Vermont Lt

Continuation of the thread.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: chinavirus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; cvlivethread; dooom; fearmongerthread; hysterics; livethread; testingfail; vaccine; wearesoscrewed; wuhansarscov2
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To: 21twelve
From the article you linked to:

"Increasing evidences point towards a role for aerosol transmission in the spread of influenza, at least over short distance where exposure to both aerosol and large droplets occurs. In most settings where there is adequate ventilation, long-range transmission does not appear to occur frequently. This distinction of ‘short-range aerosol transmission’ is not merely academic; aerosolized particles would readily penetrate or circumvent ordinary surgical masks, and penetration of aerosolized influenza viruses into the LRT where they can initiate infection would account well for the association of aerosol transmission and severe disease."

and:

"aerosol particles are rapidly diluted, and are removed by ventilation; the infectious risk is critically affected by parameters such as the infectious dose, the amount of infectious particles aerosolized at the source, and the rate of biological decay of the infectious agent. For influenza, a quick ‘back of the envelope’ type of calculation suggests that even for patients with a high viral load the amount of viruses aerosolized in a single sneeze is in fact quite small and would be rapidly diluted as the aerosol disperses; yet, because the infectious dose by aerosol is so small, the infectious risk in proximity of the patient would be significant (Tellier 2007). "

Based on this article, the risk from aerosols can reduced by adequate ventilation and distance.

I think the is a good argument for why social distancing is important, and the use of masks. Masks to help train people to not touch their mouth and nose and to prevent droplets from coming into contact others, and social distancing to help reduce the probability of COVID-19.

But there needs to be research specifically on COVID-19 for aerosol transmission.

141 posted on 03/08/2020 4:18:44 PM PDT by Fury
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To: allendale

When the news stories provide details, and about 50% do, I post them.


142 posted on 03/08/2020 4:18:55 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: setter

“Should have shut off air and sea travel 3 weeks ago.”

Still would help some to lessen new waves of infection. But, yeah, the critters are already outside the barn door already.


143 posted on 03/08/2020 4:19:06 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LilFarmer

REAKING: U.S. Senator Ted Cruz says he will be staying home this week after a person he had a brief interaction with at CPAC tested positive for coronavirus


144 posted on 03/08/2020 4:19:11 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: NautiNurse
Still trying to figure out how some countries have such low death rates. Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Austria, South Korea.

Kipper Snacks?

145 posted on 03/08/2020 4:19:58 PM PDT by jetson
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To: janetjanet998

“Oil futures open at $30. Down 25%. Total destruction.”

Only obliquely related to the virus.

Russia and the Saudis are in a war to see who can sell the most oil for the cheapest price.

US fracking has screwed up the old order.


146 posted on 03/08/2020 4:20:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: janetjanet998

Cole Miller
@ColeMillerTV
· 12m
BREAKING: Grant County Health District reports the one person that had been receiving treatment there has died.

“Our hearts are with the family, friends, and Central Washington Hospital staff” - Theresa Adkinson, Health District Administrator


147 posted on 03/08/2020 4:21:48 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Vermont Lt

“Sen. Ted Cruz to undergo self-quarantine after coming into contact with coronavirus patient”
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/03/08/senator-ted-cruz-to-undergo-self-quarantine-after-coming-into-contact-with-coronavirus-patient


148 posted on 03/08/2020 4:22:07 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Steve Van Doorn
In China and Italy they distributed hundreds of millions of the failed SARS vaccine in 2004 which made those that took it at more risk of all SARS related viruses then those that didn't take it. Based on Antibody-dependent enhancement which leads to increased infectivity in the cells.

↑ THIS ↑


149 posted on 03/08/2020 4:22:41 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: LilFarmer

I noticed on the CDC state by state spreadsheet, they only list ranges of cases. 1-5, 5-25, 25-50, 50-100, 100+. Why would they purposely switch from actual number of cases to a vague range? Transparency my foot.


150 posted on 03/08/2020 4:22:45 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: SaxxonWoods

Germany at 0 is stellar! Way to go Deutschland!


151 posted on 03/08/2020 4:23:12 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: SaxxonWoods

So the Asian country in that list has the greatest number of deaths. Wondering if the three in UK, and the two in Switzerland are Asian folk.

(And, no; I’m not anti-Asian. One of my dearest friends for 35 years is Asian. My question is just stats.)


152 posted on 03/08/2020 4:23:22 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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To: Vermont Lt

Ted Cruz doing a mini-self-quarantine because he shook hands with an infected person 10 days ago. https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Sen-Ted-Cruz-self-quarantines-after-contact-with-15115486.php


153 posted on 03/08/2020 4:23:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: janetjanet998

A virus denier is more like a Holocaust denier.


154 posted on 03/08/2020 4:24:03 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: LilFarmer
Iran: Coronavirus Death Toll Exceeds 2,300 While the mullahs’ regime continues to cover up the number of Coronavirus fatalities, the People’s Mojahedin Organization of Iran (PMOI/MEK) announced that the death toll in 115 cities in 30 provinces had exceeded 2,300 That’s what you get when you import thousands of Chinese Communist workers to build up an illegal nuclear weapons program. Heard Pakistan will get it’s just desserts for the same reason for the Commie “One road, one belt” to strangle the West project.
155 posted on 03/08/2020 4:24:43 PM PDT by Starcitizen (American. No hypenation necessary. Send the H1B and H4EAD slime home. American jobs for Americans)
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To: jetson
They screen in and outgoing flights .
Track all cases and notify .Citizens actually obey there quarantines unlike here where they go to a Meeting like in NH .
156 posted on 03/08/2020 4:25:26 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalist)
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To: Fury

There is a Scandinavian study specifically on this virus conducted in a controlled environment.

The virus managed to defy gravity and get into air vents above the patient.

It is in one of the videos here (sorry, don’t remember which video):

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w


157 posted on 03/08/2020 4:26:33 PM PDT by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: 100American

https://twitter.com/GovAndyBeshear/status/1236788570154819590
covid now in county where the Evan Williams distillery is.

That’s enough to het anyone worried...


158 posted on 03/08/2020 4:27:31 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Starcitizen

“Heard Pakistan will get it’s just desserts for the same reason for the Commie “One road, one belt” to strangle the West project. “

Hopefully. Another wicked culture that needs to be eliminated. No great loss if it happens.


159 posted on 03/08/2020 4:27:53 PM PDT by setter
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To: cgbg

I figured we had contingency plans for just about every imaginable scenario. I thought that was one of the main reasons we have a CDC.


160 posted on 03/08/2020 4:27:59 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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