Posted on 03/06/2020 12:19:11 PM PST by Vermont Lt
Continuation of Thread
No 10 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3821921/posts
Dr. Angus on CBS morning news, stated basically many will get the virus, and many un knowns. Also many tests/per patient$$. The BodyMortgage Care sponsors are sqealing prob why IMF involved.
Tell us about your grocery trips (and give city or county, please).
Any shortages we should know about?
Yeah I wear those Tyvek suits when painting cars and they do get hot and sweaty.
The news the other night said to drink your vodka because it doesn’t have enough alcohol needed for hand sanitizer.
If you get in a pinch, anything is better than nothing, imo.
The President is getting bad advice. It is not his fault.
Every world leader looks like idiots right now.
Please, third request, look and learn:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w
Lookner live in 15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGTMb7vFJA
Do you think Italy, South Korea and Japan are in on the game too?
You’re correct that this will be used to get Trump.
That doesn’t mean it isn’t an issue that will affect everyone on the planet.
If you need antibiotics for something 6 months from now...you may very well not be able to get them.
That’s reality.
And has nothing to do with any political party or who is president.
This really isn’t a ‘Trump’ issue anymore. It’s not an us vs. them issue.
When factories here shut down lines because the widgets they used to assemble this or that end product haven’t been shipped from China in several months...those people won’t be less unemployed because Trump is president.
Recognize the reality that ‘stopping the virus’ in the US has NOTHING to do with the incoming economic impact.
And it won’t JUST be the US.
EVERY single developed nation has created a ‘single point of economic failure’ with China.
This will be a worldwide thing.
if you’re worried about the dems blaming Trump for CV, it’s already been tried and that dog don’t hunt. Trump already called out their hoax blame-shaming. And Deplorables won’t let the Dems get away with it, anyway. If anything, it’s blowing up on Obama’s policies, with globalists uncharacteristically quiet.
But other than hating on the lying conniving CCP, we’re not really doing politics on this thread that I’ve noticed. We’re more about collecting information on CV. I’m sure there are other threads that are focused on the political aspect.
They need not worry. Trump just ok’ed even more work visas.
TV [Jim Bakker] pastor’s Silver gel won’t cure COVID-19, NY attorney general says
https://www.wbtv.com/2020/03/06/tv-pastors-silver-gel-wont-cure-covid-ny-attorney-general-says/
UPDATE: Germany has reported 156 new cases of coronavirus so far today, raising the total to 795
The placebo effect will surely cure _some_ folks. :-)
I am not sure of your point.
The world is full of shit that would love to kill you.
The point is this virus is being hyped to much! They stopped talking about the Flu because it comes every year and can’t beat Trump over the head with it. So along comes this virus related to the cold and they say it is new that way they can use it against Trump...
How many ventilators are there in the U.S.?
When a patient is suffering ARDS (acute respiratory distress) from COVID-19, hospitals have to put a patient on a ventilator to keep them alive.
Problem: only about 60,000 ventilators in the entire U.S.
This is a 2007 study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21149215
OBJECTIVE:
The supply and distribution of mechanical ventilation capacity is of profound importance for planning for severe public health emergencies. However, the capability of US health systems to provide mechanical ventilation for children and adults remains poorly quantified. The objective of this study was to determine the quantity of adult and pediatric mechanical ventilators at US acute care hospitals.
METHODS:
A total of 5,752 US acute care hospitals included in the 2007 American Hospital Association database were surveyed. We measured the quantities of mechanical ventilators and their features.
RESULTS:
Responding to the survey were 4305 (74.8%) hospitals, which accounted for 83.8% of US intensive care unit beds. Of the 52,118 full-feature mechanical ventilators owned by respondent hospitals, 24,204 (46.4%) are pediatric/neonatal capable. Accounting for nonrespondents, we estimate that there are 62,188 full-feature mechanical ventilators owned by US acute care hospitals. The median number of full-feature mechanical ventilators per 100,000 population for individual states is 19.7 (interquartile ratio 17.2-23.1), ranging from 11.9 to 77.6. The median number of pediatric-capable device full-feature mechanical ventilators per 100,000 population younger than 14 years old is 52.3 (interquartile ratio 43.1-63.9) and the range across states is 22.1 to 206.2. In addition, respondent hospitals reported owning 82,755 ventilators other than full-feature mechanical ventilators; we estimate that there are 98,738 devices other than full-feature ventilators at all of the US acute care hospitals.
CONCLUSIONS:
The number of mechanical ventilators per US population exceeds those reported by other developed countries, but there is wide variation across states in the population-adjusted supply. There are considerably more pediatric-capable ventilators than there are for adults only on a population-adjusted basis.
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TigerClaws:
My conclusion from this is that hosptials are going to decide who gets the ventilaors based on...
1. Age. If you’re over 80, you lived your life and you’re dead.
2. Health. If you’re 60 and have heart disease and overweight, sorry you have a short life expectancy and you don’t get the ventilator.
This sounds cruel but it’s exactly what doctors do now selecting who gets a heart transplant and who doesn’t.
3. The ideal candidate: Young, otherwise good health. Give them the ventilator.
There’s also going to be a $$$$ / class issue. A Bloomberg can just buy top care regardless of his health or age. A homeless person... likely will be not given the ventilator.
We’re looking at 12 months until a vaccine is available, those catching this early might be ‘lucky’ in the sense they got top-flight super attention. Those catching it 8 months from now might be placed into the fever centers as we’ve seen in China where they’re just tossed on beds to not spread the disease but not enough ventilators to go around by then.
https://www.wired.com/story/kids-can-get-covid-19-they-just-dont-get-that-sick/
Megan Molteni
03.07.2020 07:00 AM
Kids Can Get Covid-19. They Just Don’t Get That Sick
“Globally, 3.4 percent of reported Covid-19 patients have died, though that fatality rate is likely inflated, since people with mild symptoms are probably not being diagnosed and counted in the overall patient pool.”
Does anyone have a good understanding of how many tests in the US have been administered?
Toilet roll panic continues in Farnborough Costco
https://twitter.com/adamclarkitv/status/1236292616700002306
ping to post 975
This site has videos/slides explaining the differences between this disease and the flu and why they matter. It is a _long_ list. Please take a look at it:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD2-QVBQi48RRQTD4Jhxu8w
I have tried to find some independent confirmation of the 12,000 number and cannot.
From the NY Daily News "NYS coronavirus total hits 44, with majority still linked to hospitalized Westchester County lawyer at the hub of the ongoing health scare" (updated 03/06 09:02)
at https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-westchester-rabbi-with-diagnosed-with-coronavirus-20200306-lokwhdkgwffglfitxo3cca75wy-story.html
"Fink was among the close to 50 New Yorkers under mandatory quarantine across the state, with another 4,000 people currently under precautionary quarantine, according to Cuomo."
and:
"De Blasio said there were currently more than 2,700 New York City residents under home quarantine as part of the city’s “abundance of caution” in fighting the virus."
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