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Corona Virus Live Thread. No 7.
3/1/2020

Posted on 03/01/2020 12:56:17 PM PST by Vermont Lt

Continuation of the thread.

Previous Thread 6 here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3820357/posts


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; covidlivethread; cvlivethread; dsj02; sarscov2
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To: justa-hairyape

I have an idea which may be stupid but I’m not a chemist or plastics specialist. Couldn’t someone figure out a way to ‘infuse’ the plastic handles of shopping carts with a chemical desanitizing ajent? Right into the plastic? Like those flea collars pets used to have only not so toxic. People wouldn’t have to wipe them down. The handles take care of themselves continuously? Maybe snap on and off replacements stores could change every so often? Just brainstorming here...trying to help somehow.


561 posted on 03/01/2020 8:19:25 PM PST by Rainwave ("Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
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To: Black Agnes

“We need to pray for the president.”

Incessantly.


562 posted on 03/01/2020 8:20:06 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: blueplum
I think it is a bad idea. The mask, strap glue and straps will break down.

My family has had to create a protocol for this. Wife is a MD, sister-in-law is a triage nurse and others will have direct exposure.

My wife will begin to wear scrubs again with her lab coat. We've replaced the knob entry from the garage with a lever. Her scrubs come off and strait into the washer. PPE into the trash. After that she will head to the shower.

We have an ozone unit for her car and disinfectant for rails and knobs.

There is the possibility she will still pick it up at work, however reducing the exposure keeps her safer and the house clean.

After working out the plans we realized every family member will need to follow the same protocol if it becomes endemic to the area.

The time necessary is minimal, however habits are the hardest things to change. For instance, not touching your face.

I think everyone should plan the same and game it. Just assume everything you contact are fomites. The intent of the planning is to keep your home free of viral infection.

If a family member becomes sick, we have planned for that too.

We did not plan for shortages of PPE supplies. That is why we are looking at sterilization of respirators. You would be surprised how few hospitals have prepared for this or have supplies on hand. Many administrators are becoming nervous.

Now something that may seem cynical. The Affordable Care Act is the worst thing that ever happened to medicine. With EPIC this created a situation where we no longer have health care, we have insurance care with insurance companies running many hospitals. The insurance companies have not planned for an epidemic and from what we have seen locally will just replace medical staff with other bodies if they become ill. The insurance companies have EPIC and any warm body can enter the codes.
563 posted on 03/01/2020 8:20:52 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Jane Long; All

These days it’s hard to remember something very basic about something like this, because we are in it, and we actually care.

Whatever God has planned for this world will take place, regardless of our desires. We will not understand His plan until after the reasons are well observed, and that is frustrating right now.

Keep faith in Him and His plan.

Relax, and let Him work.

Did the world understand what happened in WWII during the war? No.


564 posted on 03/01/2020 8:21:03 PM PST by datura
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL!


565 posted on 03/01/2020 8:21:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: PA Engineer

Thank you and your family.


566 posted on 03/01/2020 8:21:47 PM PST by datura
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To: All

BREAKING: Indonesia reports first 2 cases of coronavirus - Reuters

“first”


567 posted on 03/01/2020 8:23:25 PM PST by janetjanet998
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To: mrsmith

“US home heat kills covid virus.”

The why is LifeCare in Kirkwood having continuing transmission and infection? I just visited one of those skilled nursing facilities. It was easily 80°F in there, unlike a hospital.


568 posted on 03/01/2020 8:23:44 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: dfwgator

From your San Antonio article...

...After the patient was released, a pending lab test was determined to be “weakly positive.” The patient was brought back into isolation “out of an abundance of caution,” the CDC said.

Health officials are working to trace people the patient may have come into contact with and notify them of their potential risk, the CDC said.

The city of San Antonio said its health department will assist the CDC in tracking where the patient went and who she interacted with, and said it will share the information publicly once the assessment is complete.....

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I remember transcribing the San Antonio health department presser, held with the CDC, they gave when the Wuhan people were first brought to Lackland and hotels.

It was one of the most evasive and weak health pressers I’d ever heard.

It gave NO confidence about the team and the task at hand.


569 posted on 03/01/2020 8:23:59 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: HollyB

I understand, however at 65C for 15 minutes the virus completely inactivates and is not detectable. I saw the 56C in other papers and am more comfortable with higher.


570 posted on 03/01/2020 8:24:26 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: janetjanet998

I guess they were not praying hard enough.....


571 posted on 03/01/2020 8:24:27 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: PA Engineer

Definitely agree.


572 posted on 03/01/2020 8:26:48 PM PST by HollyB
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To: datura

IRELAND

Around 40 people have used coronavirus ‘drive-through’ facility at Antrim Area Hospital

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/03/02/news/around-40-people-have-used-coronavirus-drive-through-facility-at-antrim-area-hospital-1855948/


573 posted on 03/01/2020 8:29:12 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: PA Engineer

Re 473: Run the heat up to what temperature to remove this virus?


574 posted on 03/01/2020 8:29:31 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Black Agnes

that’s what I think, too.

Has this been posted yet? sad news:
SEATTLE (AP) — Health officials in Washington state said Sunday night that a second person had died from the coronavirus — a man in his 70s from a nursing facility near Seattle


575 posted on 03/01/2020 8:30:12 PM PST by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: TigerClaws

Wow! That’s crazy awful. If detained workers are caught with a Koran, they are sent to re-education camps again lasting 3-5 years.
Just when I thought I couldn’t be more disgusted by the Chinese.

(From your link, the Australian document/report)

https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/ad-aspi/2020-03/Uyghurs%20for%20sale_Final.pdf

The full list of companies using Forced Uyghur labour:

In all, ASPI’s research has identified 83 foreign and Chinese companies directly or indirectly benefiting from the use of Uyghur workers outside Xinjiang through potentially abusive labour transfer programs as recently as 2019: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Electric, General Motors, Google, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, The North Face, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, Roewe, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. Some brands are linked with multiple factories.


576 posted on 03/01/2020 8:32:36 PM PST by HollyB
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To: steve86

Thank goodness no one disputes my other points...

Well, it’s not 100% but it’s better than the no-heat of China. It helps. Everyone would be dead in such an environment in China.
Haven’t found any sources, but will keep looking.


577 posted on 03/01/2020 8:32:40 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: PA Engineer

I was in a meeting, the other day, and EVERYONE reached to shake each others hands, upon entering the conference room. I did NOT, and everyone understood.

I looked around the room, during the meeting, and noticed how often people touched their faces....noses (a LOT!), mouths, eyes, etc. It was non-stop.

What really got me was the guy who was passing out the presentations was touchihg his nose the most :(

I didn’t pick up my copy, and said I’d read the emailed version.

Another thing about 0bama*Care*....isn’t this when the just in time policies went into high gear? Stocking just enough supplies for a month, etc? Then, these companies (like Cardinal) were to be the ‘storage’ centers. I wonder how many months supplies these suppliers actually keep on hand.

I imagine we’ve allowed China to not only be our manufacturer, but our “storage provider” as well.


578 posted on 03/01/2020 8:33:08 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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To: fella

65C (149F) for 15 minutes to “inactivate” the virus.


579 posted on 03/01/2020 8:34:44 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: mrsmith

“No one seems to have researched the effect of brief high temps- but I’m looking for it!!!”

Just like in cooking a roast (although I am not a cook and know very little about it)...160°F for so many minutes (not 1/100 of a second as the blower blows air through the heating elements in the A/A heat exchanger). This is for bacteria, I know.


580 posted on 03/01/2020 8:35:25 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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