Coronavirus Live Thread 3.

2/25/20

[Vermont Lt]

Continuation from #2

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3819175/posts?q=1&;page=493#493

[Black Agnes]

I’m trying to locate ‘pepperoni pizza seeds’. Anybody have a source for those?

[RegulatorCountry]

Caraway seeds? Fennel seeds?

[justa-hairyape]

Yes. But very worrisome. The only way we can get people in the US to quarantine is volunteringly. We wont do it now because of the setting up of Trump. Who could have been the one to rally the citizens, but they are wedging him into the only losing position on this issue. A trap basically. Unfortunately for the deep state, this virus was too well designed. And it is now out of control so everything else is out the window. Mad max soon. We will have to rebuild in the rural communities. The big cities are going Wuhan.

[GulfMan]

Do you think the liberals would send an infected person to a Trump Rally?

[LilFarmer]

One idea is to get several packets of seeds so you have some backup. I’m not a great gardener, but things that I can usually get to grow are green beans, tomatoes and collards.

[Black Agnes]

Nah. I’m thinking of the seeds for the plants that grow pepperoni pizzas.

I’m sure bloomberg’s gardener has a whole patch of those.

Right?

[Black Agnes]

I don’t expect Wuhan here.

But any deaths from this will be Trump’s fault, to be sure.

Also any inconvenience due to supply chain wonkiness.

The first Karen that can’t buy the iphone of her choice when she wants it will go first up on the national news for the evening slot. All Trump’s fault.

[LilFarmer]

S.Korea

Negative pressure bed only for severe patients, medical staff isolation

Edit 2020-02-27 03:18

On the 25th, it is a support room for all new coronavirus infections (corona 19) located on the 5th floor of the National Medical Center in Jung-gu, Seoul. An urgent request has been received to find a hospital to transfer patients who are admitted to Kyungpook Qingdao University Hospital. Difficulty breathing was a serious condition requiring emergency medical care. The on-call doctor contacted 29 hospitals nationwide with state-designated negative pressure isolation beds and asked if there were any empty beds. But there was no bed left.

At 11:30 pm, Incheon Gachon University Gil Hospital received a reply saying, “It is possible to enter the room after 10 am on the 26th.” Four out of five negative pressure beds are in use by a suspect, but one can be emptied. The patient waited about 15 hours before entering the negative pressure room on the 26th morning.

As Corona19 confirmed more than 1,000 patients on the 26th, the problem of hospital bed shortages is rising not only in Daegu-Gyeongbuk but also in the whole country.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ko&u=http://www.donga.com/news/article/all/20200227/99897223/1&prev=search

[LilFarmer]

Japan Outbreaks of patients related to the new coronavirus (148-167 cases) Today (February 26), 20 patients with this new type of coronavirus-related infectious disease and 2 asymptomatic pathogen carriers from Chiba, Hokkaido, Kanagawa, Osaka, Tokyo, Nagoya and Nagano prefectures The name has been reported as follows. With this announcement, there will be 186 domestic infections (167 patients, 19 asymptomatic pathogen carriers). Overview: Chiba Prefecture: 3 patients (148th case: 60s male, 149th case: 50s male, 150th case: 70s male) Hokkaido: 7 patients (151st case: 20s male, 152 cases) Eyes: Women in their 20s, 153 cases: Men in their 70s, 154 cases: Age and gender not disclosed (elderly, dead), 155 cases: Women in their 70s, 156 cases: Women in their 70s, 157 cases : Male in their 40s) 　　　　　1 symptom-free pathogen carrier (male in their 60s) Kanagawa: 1 patient (158th: male in their 50s) Osaka: 1 patient (159th: female in their 40s) Tokyo: 3 patients (160: male in their 80s, 161: male in their 70s, 162: male in their 70s) Nagoya City: 5 patients (163th: Male in their 50s, 164th: Male in their 60s, 165th: Male in their 70s, 166th: Male in their 70s, 167th: Female in their 70s) Nagano: asymptomatic pathogen holders person (50s woman) https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/newpage_09786.html

[blueplum]

haha - well, that’s an improvement on ‘drive-thru’

[LilFarmer]

Japan (repeat post with paragraphs)

Outbreaks of patients related to the new coronavirus (148-167 cases)

Today (February 26), 20 patients with this new type of coronavirus-related infectious disease and 2 asymptomatic pathogen carriers from Chiba, Hokkaido, Kanagawa, Osaka, Tokyo, Nagoya and Nagano prefectures The name has been reported as follows.

With this announcement, there will be 186 domestic infections (167 patients, 19 asymptomatic pathogen carriers).

Overview:
Chiba Prefecture: 3 patients (148th case: 60s male, 149th case: 50s male, 150th case: 70s male)

Hokkaido: 7 patients (151st case: 20s male, 152 cases) Eyes: Women in their 20s, 153 cases: Men in their 70s, 154 cases: Age and gender not disclosed (elderly, dead), 155 cases: Women in their 70s, 156 cases: Women in their 70s, 157 cases : Male in their 40s) 1 symptom-free pathogen carrier (male in their 60s)

Kanagawa: 1 patient (158th: male in their 50s)

Osaka: 1 patient (159th: female in their 40s)

Tokyo: 3 patients (160: male in their 80s, 161: male in their 70s, 162: male in their 70s)

Nagoya City: 5 patients (163th: Male in their 50s, 164th: Male in their 60s, 165th: Male in their 70s, 166th: Male in their 70s, 167th: Female in their 70s)

Nagano: asymptomatic pathogen holders person (50s woman)

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/newpage_09786.html

[EBH]

The exercise made clear that the only way to stave off a catastrophic outcome would have been a global public-health system capable of rapidly detecting a nascent outbreak and responding vigorously before it could become a pandemic. Such preparedness doesn’t exist today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/our-lack-of-pandemic-preparedness-could-prove-deadly/2018/09/19/0d7b235c-b13e-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html

The level of preparedness doesn’t exist today...it didn’t two years ago and still doesn’t today. It isn’t a United States issue, it is a global health system issue. It just doesn’t exist

[LilFarmer]

Italy

New cases in Liguria, Lombardy and Puglia, the number of infections rises to 455

There are 305 cases of contagion in Lombardy, but the number also rises in Liguria and the first case is recorded in Puglia where a tarantino returning from Codogno was positive. Now the total number in Italy is 455 infected

https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/02/22/news/coronavirus_in_italia_aggiornamento_ora_per_ora-249241616/

[Black Agnes]

We need something health wise that functions like the tsunami sensor network we have in the pacific.

[Black Agnes]

https://www.epochtimes.com/b5/20/2/26/n11896183.htm

It's in Mandarin but the google translate tells me:

"Update: 2020-02-27 3:38 AM Tags: New Crown Pneumonia, New Crown New Poison, Wuhan Pneumonia, Stability, Vaccination [The Epoch Times, February 26, 2020] (Reported by Epoch Times reporter He Jian) ​​In the face of a new crown of pneumonia plague that the Communist Party of China has called the worst public health event since the founding of the PRC, internal documents obtained by the Hubei government from the Epoch Times show that the Communist Party of China The real purpose of the authorities' response to the epidemic is not to prevent and treat the Chinese, but to maintain stability and control the population.

In fact, the Central Anti-epidemic Leadership Group established by the Communist Party of China on January 25, except for the leader of the State Council, Li Keqiang, and a member of the United Nations Department of the United Nations Deputy Prime Minister Sun Chunlan, the other members are either the Central Propaganda Department or the Ministry of Public Security. The entire leading group did not include competent authorities such as the Health and Health Commission, nor did they have any epidemic prevention experts. Therefore, the CCP ’s “anti-epidemic team” has also been called the “stability maintenance team”.

The internal documents of the Chinese Communist Party obtained during the Epoch Times confirm the external judgment of the Chinese Communist Party. In the face of this plague and man-made disaster caused by its authoritarian system, the primary task of the Chinese Communist Party's "epidemic prevention" work is still not to prevent and control the epidemic and to treat the people. It is the prevention and control of the epidemic that has impacted its regime and the use of the name of epidemic prevention to strengthen control over the Chinese people.

CCP's "epidemic prevention" The epidemic prevention documents of the governments at all levels of the Communist Party of China have revealed one thing in common, exposing that the focus of the Communist Party's "epidemic prevention" is control, not rescue."

[EBH]

This virus got loose in the worst country in the world. I think if it had happened in Africa...Africa would have handled things a lot better.

China hasn’t been forthcoming and I don’t expect President Trump to be either tonight.

I was out this afternoon to pickup a few items and it was weird doing some people watching, what was being bought, and there was a palpable nervous tension. If someone coughed...everyone looked.

The announcement yesterday really woke people up. The panic has already started and the democrats are going to fuel it. My point being the exercise we did 2 years ago demonstrated in the event of something like this, there’s little to prepare for or to do. It is a virus and quarantine is all we really have against it.

[blueplum]

my post had nothing to do with the deep state.
It had more to do with your attempt to apply Aristotelian logic to deductive reasoning. Term logic is good for giggles in introPhilosophy (The Lord will provide, man likes meat, the Lord will provide meat), but given only a superficial nod in the scientific process or place logic of deductive reasoning (if you don’t prepare, you’re gonna starve) Did you miss the point, teacher?

[LilFarmer]

BBC News (World)
@BBCWorld
Coronavirus cases jump to 400 in Italy

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1232773070475137025

[Excubiae]

I don’t expect Wuhan here.

It is impossible to know what to expect here. One thing that jumped out at me listening to accounts of Dr. Bruce Aylward was that there seems to be two incompatible pictures. The picture he draws (and he certainly seems honest) is of a Chinese governmental response that was far more professional, humanitarian, and effective than anybody seems to believe (honestly, far more effective than what we can realistically expect here). This does not mesh with other pictures which paint a decidedly different picture.

Which one is real? Who knows? But if he is correct and honest, and hasn't been misled, we cannot expect a better level of care than what was given over there, as shocking as it is to contemplate. Listen to his descriptions of the ways everyone seemed to be onboard to help out for the common good. And then compare it to last nights' debate (LOL)

One thing to remember is this: China had the advantage of responding when the global supply chain was still intact. We may very well not have that advantage. So don't be too sure what the worst case scenario is.

Oh, FWIW, one myth that he shatters is the notion that there is a huge pool of mild cases. From what they found, there is no such pool. This is not the tip of an iceberg. The number of cases is relatively small, and the mortality is quite high. The death rate does seem to be roughly in-line with what the official cases would imply (worse, if rumors are true that the worst cases were never tested, and merely put down as "pneumonia").

[LilFarmer]

S. Korea’s virus cases near 1,300, tests on church followers start

febr 26 2020

SEOUL, Feb. 26 (Yonhap) — South Korea’s confirmed cases of the new coronavirus approached 1,300 on Wednesday as health authorities started testing about 210,000 followers of a religious sect at the center of rapid infections here.

The 284 additional cases, the sharpest daily surge so far, brought the total infections to 1,261 from only 51 a week ago, according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC).

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200226003357320