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Kobe's Sikorsky appeared to be climbing and turning around
Flightradar24.com ^ | Duke C.

Posted on 01/26/2020 2:53:27 PM PST by Duke C.

According to the ADSB transponder data he was following the 101 Fwy to Thousand Oaks. Then suddenly turned and dropped rapidly. Last data point shows he was dropping at 4,000 FPM which is pretty extreme...


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To: Vaquero

Yes.

From the flight path, I would say they were looking for a safe place to land and chose poorly.

There was an open field with plenty of room to land nearby less than a half a mile away to the west.

Instead, the pilot tried to land at an insection near a water reservoir and impacted a hill there. They turned off a flight path that was pointed at the open field.

During autorotation, you aim for an open area and don’t make mid-flight course corrections because they eat up the rotor speed building to use to cushion the landing when at the last possible moment you pull up on the collective and land.

The engines either “fodded” out or disengaged from the transmission just before they tried to autorotate.

Because they were still able to turn in flight, it does not appear they lost tail rotor control, my educated guess is that they lost power from their engines and were auto-rotating but changed course and lost Main rotor speed because of their maneuvers.


61 posted on 01/26/2020 3:58:21 PM PST by usmcobra (Happiness is a belt fed weapon.)
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To: Maris Crane

He had problems while in basketball HOWEVER after leaving basketball he became a truly wonderful family man AND did MANY, MANY things to help kids in ghetto areas not only money wise but time also!! He sent many kids who did not have the money to go through college the financial means they needed to go to college paid full boat for MANY, MANY kids!!! Dropped off and picked up his own kids from school everyday HIMSELF!!!! Whatever his sins during basketball ENDED after basketball and he became a true role model to HIS kids and many, many, others!!!


62 posted on 01/26/2020 3:59:49 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Maigrey

Aaah I hope you’re right because I wouldn’t wish that ride on anyone. I’d rather crash straight into the hill, if I had to go in a crash.


63 posted on 01/26/2020 4:02:04 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Duke C.

It was IFR when I was at WHP at 10 this morning, I could see the pass in question from my hangar, Fog and Low Overcast all around the mountains surrounding the north,west and south valley.


64 posted on 01/26/2020 4:04:46 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

That makes me a little bit sadder.

I was unaware of his early troubles, but haven’t we all made mistakes. To turn your life around is admirable.

Thanks, Kit Cat.

What a loss to many young people. Pity


65 posted on 01/26/2020 4:05:20 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: Duke C.

I have none of that. The box below the map says, “Playback of flight N72EX,” with a white X in a blue box. No arrows or triangles. Maybe I have to be a registered user and be logged in or something. Whatever I do, the little helicopter just sits there and doesn’t move, right-click doesn’t bring anything up. Not too impressed with this website.


66 posted on 01/26/2020 4:06:37 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Duke C.
"Then suddenly turned and dropped rapidly."


67 posted on 01/26/2020 4:10:01 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: Duke C.

Who cares?

TV and celebs are pretty much porn for the strange possessor who creates addictions that estrange the human from himself

The celebs who feed people’s demons their fix to keep the society and its gods appeased might just be feeding off of our souls and starving them. Anyways, once Kobe or Princess Diana dies and people freak out, it make one believe in the spiritualities within them that like watching themselves there at the expense of the possessed human


68 posted on 01/26/2020 4:11:20 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: EEGator

I didn’t say I would take a knee to show my disgust for the children.

Only for Kobe.

“Children died as well.”


69 posted on 01/26/2020 4:12:14 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

In America liberal women will spend more energy pursuing a divorcing husband than a rapist.

Rape has become extremely relative term thanks to so called feminists


70 posted on 01/26/2020 4:12:59 PM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hatse:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: 2banana

I’m glad you aspire to be like Colin Kaepernick.


71 posted on 01/26/2020 4:14:40 PM PST by EEGator
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To: doorgunner69

Thinking also there had to be two on that flight deck considering the reports about that helicopter being a twin turbine.


72 posted on 01/26/2020 4:15:23 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: 2banana

No. Just a dick.


73 posted on 01/26/2020 4:15:24 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Scroll down a bit and there’s a play button to see the flight path in motion.


74 posted on 01/26/2020 4:16:29 PM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The seats generally have energy management devices built in. I used to work for a company that made ejection seats and am somewhat familiar with helicopter seat design


75 posted on 01/26/2020 4:16:36 PM PST by Jeff Vader
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To: gundog

That changes things considerably


76 posted on 01/26/2020 4:17:15 PM PST by Jeff Vader
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To: SkyDancer

For auto-rotating to occur, the blades need to come to a stop from turning under power, and set up a reverse rotation in the opposite direction. At 4k feet alt., they prolly never even got stopped before impact, and especially if the faltering engine was inputting any power at all. A chopper that heavy is totally different from a little puddle jumper autogyro. It literally fell like a rock.


77 posted on 01/26/2020 4:17:24 PM PST by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Vaquero

Not in the middle of a flight controls emergency, if that’s what it was, and everything thing has to be done perfectly, calmly, by the book, and with a reasonably flat landing area ahead (not a mountain).


78 posted on 01/26/2020 4:18:11 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Duke C.

Possible pilot heart attack?


79 posted on 01/26/2020 4:18:46 PM PST by jetson
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To: Maris Crane

Like most players of his era Bryant trashed around with women he wasn’t married to.
There was one rape allegation against him in 2003 he admitted to the sex but denied rape. His accuser refused to testify so the charges were dropped. The 19 y/o girl brought a civil suit and Bryant paid her to go away.

Once away from the game Kobe rediscovered his faith and settled into a good life with his family.


80 posted on 01/26/2020 4:20:23 PM PST by oldvirginian (I know not what course others may take but as for me Give me Liberty or give me death)
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